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Host: Welcome back,you are watching alive edition of dialogue on
CCTV news,out topic today is the China-UK relation with the
official visit from the China premier Li Keqiang inside UK,and
today for the 2nd half of our program,we are going to focus more on
trade and particularly the financial ties between the two nations.
Studio now for the 2nd half program we have
professor Zhu Ning deputy director of the Advanced institute of
finance of Shanghai Jiaotong University. welcome, sir, also we
welcome back Mr. John Ross who is the senior fellow of Chongyang
institute of finance service of Renmin University, gentlemen, we
understand that one year ago the two sides China and UK signed a
200 billion dollars of currency swop deal for three year time,and
now it is moving to world direction to have London as one of the
pioneering hub for the RMB,how big a change is this , Professor
Zhu?
Zhu: I think that it is quiet significant,but I think
both things have taken place over step and over step,I think by
starting up bilateral swop that enabling Chinese RMB to have more
present in UK,I think would have more understanding about how the
system works,I think now by establishing London as the leading
splice for RMB in Europe or maybe entire world ,I think it is
really significant in two ways,one is that RMB has made another
significant step moving forward to become an international
currency,on the other hand I think that London stands out as the
leading financial center over New York city and over Frankfurt as a
very major place for China to have a trusted partner to have its
expansion of RMB business,I think it is a quietly beneficial and
significance to both parties.
Host: agree with that,even thought someone argue that RMB has
already became the so called the 8th biggest international
currency,professor Zhu?
Zhu:well, if you put on different and different area
of economy and fiancé, RMB is probably rent very high,but if you
look through and look closely at how much has been made up in
financial transaction,I think RMB is still relatively confined in
its own areas,I attempt to conqual with other guests,I think it is
very significant step both symbolically and substantively,things at
this point I think that whatever big percentage increase will be
reasonable because we are started from a very low
face
Host: how much does it really mean for the international
organization of RMB with discussion of this topic already,it seems
already the beginning of China leading for the world trade
organization I think,however we are still doing that the reason is
that China prefers a gradual approach,and others also understand
the importance of that ,but how much does it really mean having
London as one of the offshore or trading hub for the RMB
internationalization process,will that be really a searching
extent
Zhu:I think by all means,I think to this point
,Hongkong or Singapore,I mean the other two quarter of
international center for RMB has been largely in Asia ,they have
been likely closely connected to the China market,to have another
market,we can forget about its significance, having an
international center for RMB outside of Asia Pacific region,step by
step,but it is important ,secondly I think that as an international
financial center,London I think it is willingness to regularly have
welcome RMB,that is also very encouraging sign,I think London or
England have became confidence on RMB comes an accumulate for
international currency.
Host: professor Zhu, is occupying London stage for China
premier to explain to the rest of world what the Chinese having
minded this economy, important?
Zhu: I would think it is very important ,I think put
into two reasons one is as much as China has developed over the
past two or three decades, it still remains a mystery to many
foreign investors in foreign countries, so in that way I think
there can not be enough explanation for what is going on in China
what is China strategy for future economic
development ,the second I think is a lot of pressure and congestion
about what China economy speed can still maintain its speed at 7.5
% .
Host: for a hard landing
Zhu:exactly,going to a hard landing or there will be
some forms of accumulates or some kinds of economic policy changes
going forward in the rest of year,I think this layer of
clarification is being lifted up, a quietly well time also very
important ,because I think in some way confidence is really as much
importance as the money or support itself,the more is the
confidence from foreign investor and foreign community that was
giving not only Chinese but also international community some
pieces of mind.
Host: what really interesting,professor Zhu,is that you see
more than more when Chinese leaders are doing their foreign visits,
their explanation of China situation is extremely interested to all
audience in the other countries, on the other hand, the
international community confidence and understanding about China
realities is also important in the way to China’s domestic
reform,we understand that China is now pushing to certain extent
its financial reform, how much importance is really there for let’s
just say the UK audience understand, how much interaction there is
likely to be as a result, professor Zhu ?
Zhu:I think it is very important ,I can tell from my
personal experience I am working with the British embassy in China,
some project related to China oracle bone market ,it seems that
there is considerable interests coming from the foreign communities
in developing more financially in China,but they really do not have
the knowhow about what is really going on, what is the introversy
in the regultory or in the policy side, so I think the more people
know about micro-side of China, the more interest will grow into
the middle level or into the micro level in the business level
,they would have confidence that the policy will stay stable ,there
will be business friendly environment for
Chininese.
Host: This is very interesting ,professor Zhu , when you hear
the warnings over, over and over again, some time
one would take the warning for granted, that could be dangerous for
the China economy as well ,so once again I think from the Chinese
perspective is about how to distinguish the real
warning from the whether, professor Zhu, in the way it seems that
China premier trying to address that during his UK trip, as a
economist and a financial expert ,how do you see that?
Zhu : I think that financial and economic experience
is a term of called imaginary meaning that by seeing problems you
might better of addressing problems ,not having heard about those
issues,you might just ignore these issues, they may try to say
something that will help China reform,in that way I think I want
take it in more in-part perspective.
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