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Precious
Assets【珍贵资产】
Author:
Ticker Magazine
Ticker.com
Last Update: May 04, 10:07 AM ET
If technology and geology play a pivotal role in the precious
metals industry, a thorough understanding of the geopolitical
environment on the ground proves equally important for the savvy
investor in this marketplace. Shanquan Li, portfolio manager of the
Oppenheimer Gold and Special Minerals Fund, makes his selections in
the sector by segregating companies based on a well-structured
three-tier model.
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“The fund mainly invests in common stocks of companies that are
involved in mining, processing or dealing in gold or other metals
or minerals, and may invest all of its assets in those
securities.”
Q:
What is the fund’s main investment
objective?
A : As the name suggests, this is a fund
investing in securities of companies that deal in gold and other
special minerals. The fund mainly invests in common stocks of
companies that are involved in mining, processing or dealing in
gold or other metals or minerals and may invest all of its assets
in those securities. As a fundamental principle, the fund invests
at least 25% of its net assets plus any borrowings for investment
purposes in mining securities and metal investments.
The fund may invest in U.S. or foreign companies including
companies in developing or emerging markets without any limits on
its foreign investments. We may buy securities issued by companies
of any size or market cap and at times we might increase our
emphasis on securities of issuers in a particular capitalization
range.
Q: What kind of investors should consider adding
this fund to their portfolios?
A : First of all, the fund is designed
primarily for those investors who seek capital appreciation over
the long-term in a fund that emphasizes investing in gold and
precious metal industries. Additionally, this is a suitable
offering for investors who would be willing to assume the risks of
short-term price fluctuations that are typical for an aggressive
fund concentrating its investments in these industries with the
additional risk of investing in both developing and emerging
economies.
This fund is certainly not tailored for investors seeking current
income, but it is quite appropriate for some portion of a long-term
investment plan for investors with a high risk tolerance, or as a
hedge against inflation and volatility in other equity
sectors.
Since 2002, the fund has been converted to a non-diversified fund
to be closely aligned with peers.
Q: What kind of precious metals does the fund
invest in and what do you mean by the term special
minerals?
A : The other precious metals covered are
silver, platinum and palladium. Special minerals would encompass
minerals such as uranium and lithium, and these industries are
selected only when they are experiencing supply and demand
mismatch.
Q: How do you define your investment
philosophy?
A : We believe that if you are invested in the
best companies in this sector, you are bound to enjoy capital gains
in the long run. When I say the best companies, I mean the
following three things.
First, I look at those companies that have the best reserve of
resources of the metal ores that they deal in. We also examine the
quality of those reserved resources and the ease of extraction of
the ore as well as the metal from the ore.
Second, even if the reserve of resources is of the best quality, it
has to be located in a country with very stable and friendly
governments and a good environment to operate in and extract
precious metals. That will ultimately help reduce the production
cost.
The third factor would be the management team of the company, their
past history and capacity and their trustworthiness, especially
with respect to shareholders.
Once we have identified these companies, we will take the market
cap and liquidity into consideration. In general, we avoid very
small companies as their shares would be harder to trade. We would
consider the correlation of a company with the sell side analysis
since this would prompt to what extent the firm is tracked and
recorded. This formulates the first step in our research. In this
space we have different approaches to analyzing companies dealing
in gold and silver and a very different evaluation method when
dealing with platinum.
At this point, we take up the fundamental research by talking to
the sell side analysts, internal analysts and management team. We
also look at the balance sheet and various other filings available
for a three-to-five year period to evaluate the growth potential of
the company. This is much more true in this sector, where from the
time you start to mine a product but it is not easy to start
production immediately, so a five-year term would do well in most
cases.
Q: Do you evaluate all manufacturing and mining
companies in the same way?
A : The evaluations are pretty much the same
but we form the company positions in the portfolio in three tiers
in order of importance. The first tier would be a list of some ten
companies with relatively lesser risk, which form the core holdings
in the portfolio. These holdings would represent about 50% of the
assets in the portfolio.
The intermediate tier would consist of emerging producers or miners
that have put in resources and money and are on the verge of
production after a hiatus of say five years or so. Those firms
typically draw a lot of investor attention in terms of liquidity,
trading, coverage and almost pretty much everything else.
The third tier has the list of companies that are in the riskier
stage of early stage exploration type of companies. Most of them
are relatively smaller cap firms that have good assets and
resources but do not produce anything now. They may become
potential large scale producers at a later stage but right now they
are in a nascent stage of development. Since these firms have no
production, it is very difficult to evaluate them and so it becomes
a necessity for us to hold as many names as we can find to have
diversity and thus reduce the risk.
Q: What is the size of your universe and how many
names do you tend to select?
A : The size of our universe is about 500
names and we choose somewhere around 95 names to make up the
portfolio while covering all three
tiers.
Q: Do you consider only pure plays or resource
companies with a portfolio of multiple
assets?
A : We focus mainly on high quality precious
metal producers but have owned the stocks of these companies for
short periods of time in the past. We have held them exclusively as
a diversification tool and to mitigate volatility, bearing in mind
that the prices of these stocks do not fluctuate as much when the
price of gold falls all of a sudden.
Q: Do you also consider investing directly in
Exchange Traded Funds?
A : We feel that investing in ETFs involves
some legal issues, which becomes, in our view, somewhat
controversial. Once the legal issue is clarified, we can buy ETFs
in full, which is a brilliant play in our opinion. If we run into
the equity fund and if someone wants a bullion exposure, we can buy
certain kinds of futures but you may need to roll over this from
time to time. I would rather have the portfolio be simple since we
feel that’s the best way forward.
Q: Could you give us some examples that
illustrate your selection process?
A : Currently, the largest holding in our
portfolio is a company called Red Back Mining, which falls in the
second tier based on our methodology. In fact, at the time of the
purchase it was not that large. The company listed in Canada. They
have very good reserves located (in the US and) in West Africa, a
region which is quite stable compared to other parts of the
continent. The company had very good deposits and they had an
acquisition policy of some of the other available deposits in this
area, a strategy that gave them a good pipeline of resources. With
their low cost of production the company grew rapidly and it is now
the largest holding in our portfolio.
Q: What kind of metrics do you rely on in your
research process?
A : In the mining area one rarely uses the
price-to-earnings ratio for evaluation, especially if the company
is at its nascent stage. In this sector it takes at least five
(odd) years to develop the mines, therefore there would be no
earnings worth comparing, but the stock could still be selling
cheap. We prefer taking into account price-to-net asset value
instead.
On average, the life of a mine in this sector is around 15 years.
Thus, if a company is in its 14th year, it will not be worth
considering the P/E ratio, but if they have acquired good reserves
to make some good asset value, it would still be worthwhile to
consider such a company for evaluation. We always look at the
price-to-net asset value as a crucial metric to asses a company’s
worth.
Q: Do you set a target price as part of your sell
discipline process?
A : We use a target price at the evaluation
stage. We will not necessarily sell the stocks of high quality
companies when they reach the first target price. What we will do
is trim the position instead, which makes a lot of sense with gold
companies. As far as they are concerned we always keep an eye on
the price of bullion since this could be fluctuating very much, so
trimming might be a relevant way of controlling the risk of
overweight (and inflation).
Q: How significant is macro economic analysis for
you?
A : It is very important to keep an eye on
macroeconomic developments because there are so many factors that
could affect the price of gold and other precious metals and,
consequently, the value of the dollar. The price of platinum is
also affected by the health of the automobile sector because of the
demand for catalytic converters.
Q: What are some of the risks that you focus on
and how do you mitigate them?
A : By far, the greatest risk in this fund is
the uncertainty associated with the price of precious metals. Even
though we cannot mitigate it, we can act fast enough if the
situation warrants to control this risk by selling or trimming
positions, as already explained. The second level of risk is
real-time political risk, especially when we are entering a new
country. The only way we can react in such a situation is by being
very analytical in our research as we assess the political and
social environment in each country where we invest. Yet, the fact
remains that this is a riskier industry than others and we have to
accept that. As a further step to reduce risk in the portfolio, we
try to stay fully diversified at any given time.
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