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PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT
One-on- One with Sharon Stone(片段)
Aired February 24, 2011 - 21:00 ET
Transcript
MORGAN: That was Sharon Stone in "Basic Instinct." And it is fascinating to see her screen test for the role, then the very same scene from the film itself. That's what we just saw. That moment -- apparently last week a survey came out and said the moment --
STONE: What moment is that?
MORGAN: The moment that follows?
STONE: I don't know what you mean? What do you mean? Say it out loud. Go ahead.
MORGAN: The moment when your legs --
STONE: What?
MORGAN: -- kind of stop being crossed. Let me put it delicately.
STONE: Here's what I thought: I noticed that this was just this week became the most paused moment in movie history. And I figured that this week was the week that you were -- you and your team were Googling me the most for the show. So I figured probably you --
MORGAN: I'm responsible.
STONE: Or you and your team were responsible for this being the most paused moment. Was it you that made it the most paused moment?
MORGAN: I'm happy to claim all credit for this, seriously. I can't think of a better label you could ever wish for. STONE: You were in there with the remote?
MORGAN: How do you feel -- seriously, you're the most paused woman in the history of movies, that moment.
STONE: The closer I get to middle age, the more I think that's true.
MORGAN: Are you proud of that moment?
STONE: I think that the film as a whole, because it's been like, 18, 19 years -- I think the film has actually held up for people and has created a sort of passage for a sexual identification for people, and a way for people to speak about the way that they feel about themselves, the way they want to communicate about their sexuality.
It has been a film that empowered women in their feminine -- not just their sexual but their feminine identity.
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MORGAN: Catherine Tramell was as terrifying as she was sexy. She
was kind of this fearsome creature.
STONE: That kind of fearsomeness allowed women to feel empowered, allowed women to say what they really wanted to say. And men actually really liked it. They liked that feeling of, oh, it's an exciting feeling to have a woman say this is what I want and this is what I think.
Men felt like women can tell me what they want and what they like and what they think. And it is exciting to hear that, I think.
MORGAN: Did you become more like her after the movie? Because you kind of admired the way she went about her work?
STONE: How I became like her was not in a sexual sense. But in a sense of that I came to understand the shadow self, the sense -- in the sense that I became really clear that is have the shadow self is cast by the light self. Shadows are never cast by darkness. They're cast by light.
And we have our good self and our shadow self that we look at. To find our great self, we have to integrate the two. This integration is what really allows us to be free.
MORGAN: There were reports on both sides in both camps that after you first saw that moment, the most paused moment in history, that you went and whacked the director. Bang.
STONE: Well, because he had told me when we shot the scene that the light was reflecting off of my underwear, and that he could see that I had underwear on, that if I took off my underwear, there would be a shadow, that we wouldn't see my pubic hair, as we do in the film, where everybody keeps claiming they see my vagina. What they really see just a little glance of pubic hair, which just seemed to have stopped, you know, nations. That's so hilarious. But what happened is he said we would just see a shadow; we would not really see anything. But what we were seeing was clearly my underwear and that the scene didn't say what it was meant to say.
So I said, OK, and then when I saw it on the monitor, which was sort of old-fashioned grainy monitor, we didn't see anything. Then when he got the shot that he got, which I don't think he knew he was going to get -- I think it was as surprising to him as it was to me. He put it in the movie. He didn't bring me into the screening room and say, look what I got, and it is very powerful and I think we should use it, and give me a minute to think about it.
He screened the movie with me publicly with many people in a room. He didn't give me a chance to see it, digest it.
MORGAN: Were you horrified?
STONE: I think more I was just so shocked and I was embarrassed not to be able to process it alone with him than I was so horrified. Because I agree that it was very, very good for the movie. But I didn't have the chance to process it individually and get my brain around it.
MORGAN: Would you have become the superstar you became without that moment, do you think? Because it was so provocative, so daring, so challenging --
STONE: Yes, I would. Because there are seven million porno movies and the girl aren't super stars.
MORGAN: Yes. So actually it was just a great moment in a movie.
STONE: It was a great moment in a great movie that stands the test of time.

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