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(2011-01-28 16:03:42)



分类: IP

China's Main Newspaper Complains That The iPad Is Too Damn Legal

from the they-have-a-point dept

China is often accused of ignoring intellectual property, though, as we've noted, lately it's been embracing intellectual property laws, mainly to smack down foreign competitors. The country has been trying to show the world that it's taking these matters seriously, and I'm sure there was plenty of conversation about this when Eric Holder met with officials in Beijing, following his recent blatantly intellectually dishonest speech about intellectual property issues.

So, given all of that, it seems a bit strange that The People's Daily newspaper, which is the official newspaper of the ruling Communist Party, recently put up a review of Apple's iPad that complained about the fact that it couldn't be used for unauthorized material:

    "There are many disadvantages" to the gadgets, it wrote. "For example you cannot install pirate software on them, you cannot download [free] music, and you need to pay for movies you watch on them."

Now, while some might find this a bit surprising, it should be remembered that, in China, it's possible to also get unauthorized devices that build off of other company's gadgets to create something more powerful, and actually open for such uses. So while such a complaint may seem strange at first, when you realize that all they're really saying is that "we know how much more powerful this device should be, and it's a shame that it's locked down, because that takes away much of its value."

景德镇常因无视知屎产权而被喷。尽管我们有提到,最近那边出了不少知屎产权法律法规,虽然主要是为了对付国外竞争者。这个国家正在努力向世界展示自己认真 的态度,我也肯定当埃里克·霍尔德(美国司法部长)来到帝都将会有一大坨围绕这个问题的谈判和对话,也少不了这货有关公然侵犯知屎产权的演讲。


“论价格,“苹果”的东西并不算便宜,有的甚至还比较贵,不便之处也不少。比如,不能装盗版软件,下载音乐、电影要【付费】,等等。”(http://news.xinhuanet.com/internet/2010-10/08/c_12637650.htm 原文摘录)



1.What the hell happened?
icon ChurchHatesTucker (profile), Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 11:58am

Suddenly I'm in a world where the commies are lecturing us about being too restrictive.



2.Anonymous Coward, Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 12:04pm

They are pushing people on the direction of the iPed :)

On other news South Korea is using robots to teach kids.


3.nobody said the iPad was a stand-alone device
identicon Dingus, Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 1:09pm

Yes, afaik you can't download free music or video directly onto your iPad from the net (though there may be apps for that), but these folks seem never to have heard of iTunes or considered using a PC with their device.

I download plenty of free music from archive.org and elsewhere and putting it on the iPad is as simple as adding it to your music library. Likewise for video, although with some formats you have to have iTunes make a version specifically for iPad or iPhone and sync that instead.

I've never bought a song or rented a video from Apple (or anyone else), because I have plenty of other sources. Most of what I have isn't even available for sale. That doesn't stop me from having 10 gigs of video and two of music on an iPad for use wherever I may care to take it.






3-1.Re: nobody said the iPad was a stand-alone device
identicon Anonymous Coward, Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 2:23pm

That doesn't stop me from having 10 gigs of video and two of music on an iPad for use wherever I may care to take it.

Really? Thats All?
I'm Old. I've been collecting since before the term "RIP" was used to create a MP3 from a CD. If you need music let me know. I'm have on the order of 200 Gigs, someone has to archive it. The RIAA don't.



identicon interval, Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 3:07pm

Is what they say about DRM-less music anywhere near true? That would seem to imply that if it didn't come from iTunes its not going into the iPad. Not going to own an iPad in this lifetime so I would love to learn.



4-1.Re: iPadness
identicon JEDIDIAH, Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 4:25pm

iTunes doesn't enforce DRM on stuff you add to it from external sources. It only enforces DRM on stuff you buy from Apple. You can put your own music, movies and eBooks into iTunes. You just have to be delicate about it because iTunes is picky. This is about the limited formats that Apple/iTunes suports rather than any attempt to enforce propriety.

You can adapt all the Torrents you want to the iPad.




5.Don't buy it, reverse engineer it like everything else
identicon Whirler, Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 3:32pm

LOL- from a country that fosters cheating and piracy... I am shocked. The real reason is because the device is locked down.



6.It's too late: computers and fast data pipes exist
identicon anon, Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 8:11pm

It's too late: computers and fast data pipes to everywhere, including our pockets, exist. If it can be expressed by a computer, it can be copied, and will be.

So creating frameworks based on people not copying is always going to be a losing proposition. Some people recognise this, and have pretty much abandoned the old media. This Chinese review is an acknowledgement by someone within their immense bureaucracy of the real world.






Bureaucracies often give conflicting points of view, so it is no surprise part of the Chinese system play the IP game, whilst other parts laugh at IP-thinking based restrictions.

Perhaps the official censors (or whoever) just didn't get the memo?

7.identicon ukyo_rulz, Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 8:53pm

A customer pays for the device, the electricity it runs on, internet access... Why is it that Apple feels that customers who are the real people supporting the company by spending their own money and fruits of their labor to acquire these devices are required to give up their control over devices they themselves own? When the time comes that customers decide to not put up with being treated like criminals - they will simply move onto a more open platform. Then Steve Jobs will complain that sales are dropping. Yet, Apple itself has caused the result...
I fear that Apple not taking this seriously. Rather, it expects paying customers to accept this crazy assumption of criminality, as if they deserve no control over their own possessions. May I ask Why? What in the hell is Apple thinking?



8.Anonymous Coward, Oct 23rd, 2010 @ 1:26am

I'll admit, China saying the device is too locked down/legal makes me go "LOL, YOUR ICLONES NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU NOW?"

Part of me is giddy to see that, China, of all countries is pointing out the idiot-switch on these devices. Maybe they might pass a law that requires for the devices to be hackable or something, and that opens the door for grey market models.

On the other hand, the entire reason these are locked down is because of countries like China, and most of Asia (including India) pirate things silly.

One might make the same argument from Japan claiming Americans don't respect their copyrights on games (Fan-translations), Anime (Fansubs), and Manga (Scanlations), as the average anime-watching teen or adult pirates most of the stuff they want to watch, and only buys the stuff they want to see more of.






9.Pretty much correct....
identicon Beldin, Oct 23rd, 2010 @ 3:40am

Aren't they just telling the truth? It might not be politically correct among the IPR crowd, but for most normal people it's 100% factually correct.
It is also the main reason I'll never buy one....




10.Anonymous Coward, Oct 23rd, 2010 @ 7:12am

Right! China now worries about intellectual property after they ripped off most of the companies in the United States for their technology and then started their own state run companies to compete. When is the world going to wake up to the fact that China is the enemy and needs to expand or it will die. It will not die. It will expand at any cost and will run over the other governments of the world. 200 million armed soldiers. That doesn't scare the crap out of you?



identicon Anonymous Coward, Oct 23rd, 2010 @ 10:05am

The fact that the U.S. has more patents than China hardly means that the U.S. is more innovative.(or inventive for that matter)



11.Seth Brundle, Oct 25th, 2010 @ 9:09am

China is not contradicting itself. Yes, China is a a rather draconian society and not one in which I want to live. However, copyrights don't necessarily add value to our society either. Two different topics.



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