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老美吐槽也犀利之IPAD太TM合法了

(2011-01-28 16:03:42)
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China's Main Newspaper Complains That The iPad Is Too Damn Legal

from the they-have-a-point dept


China is often accused of ignoring intellectual property, though, as we've noted, lately it's been embracing intellectual property laws, mainly to smack down foreign competitors. The country has been trying to show the world that it's taking these matters seriously, and I'm sure there was plenty of conversation about this when Eric Holder met with officials in Beijing, following his recent blatantly intellectually dishonest speech about intellectual property issues.

So, given all of that, it seems a bit strange that The People's Daily newspaper, which is the official newspaper of the ruling Communist Party, recently put up a review of Apple's iPad that complained about the fact that it couldn't be used for unauthorized material:

    "There are many disadvantages" to the gadgets, it wrote. "For example you cannot install pirate software on them, you cannot download [free] music, and you need to pay for movies you watch on them."

Now, while some might find this a bit surprising, it should be remembered that, in China, it's possible to also get unauthorized devices that build off of other company's gadgets to create something more powerful, and actually open for such uses. So while such a complaint may seem strange at first, when you realize that all they're really saying is that "we know how much more powerful this device should be, and it's a shame that it's locked down, because that takes away much of its value."

景德镇常因无视知屎产权而被喷。尽管我们有提到,最近那边出了不少知屎产权法律法规,虽然主要是为了对付国外竞争者。这个国家正在努力向世界展示自己认真 的态度,我也肯定当埃里克·霍尔德(美国司法部长)来到帝都将会有一大坨围绕这个问题的谈判和对话,也少不了这货有关公然侵犯知屎产权的演讲。

尽管上面扯了一大堆,还有发生了一件怪事。TG管辖下官方报纸人民日报最近刊出了一篇评价IPAD的文章。其中对于某些事实发出了一通抱怨。

“论价格,“苹果”的东西并不算便宜,有的甚至还比较贵,不便之处也不少。比如,不能装盗版软件,下载音乐、电影要【付费】,等等。”(http://news.xinhuanet.com/internet/2010-10/08/c_12637650.htm 原文摘录)

现在,可能有人会觉得有一点点吃惊。记住,在景德镇,山寨是可能的(原谅翻译君偷懒)。因此这通抱怨看似诡异,但实际上会发现他们真正要说的是:“我们知道这东西有多吊,但可惜被锁住了,若非如此这玩意儿更有用。”


评论:

1.What the hell happened?
icon ChurchHatesTucker (profile), Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 11:58am

Suddenly I'm in a world where the commies are lecturing us about being too restrictive.

1、我了个擦
我突然穿越到了TG吐槽我们限制太多的世界了

(SF总是亮点)

2.Anonymous Coward, Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 12:04pm

They are pushing people on the direction of the iPed :)

On other news South Korea is using robots to teach kids.

2、他们正在把人们赶去买iPed
另一个新闻上棒子正在用刚大木给小孩当老师

3.nobody said the iPad was a stand-alone device
identicon Dingus, Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 1:09pm

Yes, afaik you can't download free music or video directly onto your iPad from the net (though there may be apps for that), but these folks seem never to have heard of iTunes or considered using a PC with their device.

I download plenty of free music from archive.org and elsewhere and putting it on the iPad is as simple as adding it to your music library. Likewise for video, although with some formats you have to have iTunes make a version specifically for iPad or iPhone and sync that instead.

I've never bought a song or rented a video from Apple (or anyone else), because I have plenty of other sources. Most of what I have isn't even available for sale. That doesn't stop me from having 10 gigs of video and two of music on an iPad for use wherever I may care to take it.

3、没人说过IPAD是独立的设备

是的,不能从网上直接把免费音乐影视下到你的IPAD(虽然有程序可以),但这群人似乎从没听过ITUNES或者考虑把菊花和PC连起来。

老子从archive.org和其他黄站下了无数免费音乐然后塞进IPAD,就好像塞进媒体库一样。哔片也一样,就是要用ITUNES弄一个爱拍和爱疯专属格式然后同步。

老子没从水果那里买过一首歌一部片,因为老子有大把资源。其中大部分甚至你想花钱买他都不让。结果就是老子的IPAD上现在有了10G哔片2G音乐。

(正版什么的最讨厌了)

3-1.Re: nobody said the iPad was a stand-alone device
identicon Anonymous Coward, Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 2:23pm

That doesn't stop me from having 10 gigs of video and two of music on an iPad for use wherever I may care to take it.


Really? Thats All?
I'm Old. I've been collecting since before the term "RIP" was used to create a MP3 from a CD. If you need music let me know. I'm have on the order of 200 Gigs, someone has to archive it. The RIAA don't.

3-1、结果就是老子的IPAD上现在有了10G哔片2G音乐。

来真的?就这么点?
我是老基友了。从“抓轨”这个字眼出现前老子就开始CD转MP3。你要啥音乐尽管开口。200G资源无压力。美国唱片业协会也未必有我多。

4.iPadness
identicon interval, Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 3:07pm

Is what they say about DRM-less music anywhere near true? That would seem to imply that if it didn't come from iTunes its not going into the iPad. Not going to own an iPad in this lifetime so I would love to learn.

4、爱拍你死

基友们说的没有DRM保护的音乐到处都有是真的?这就是说不是从ITUNES出来就不能进IPAD。这辈子不会买IPAD的人飘过。

4-1.Re: iPadness
identicon JEDIDIAH, Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 4:25pm

iTunes doesn't enforce DRM on stuff you add to it from external sources. It only enforces DRM on stuff you buy from Apple. You can put your own music, movies and eBooks into iTunes. You just have to be delicate about it because iTunes is picky. This is about the limited formats that Apple/iTunes suports rather than any attempt to enforce propriety.

You can adapt all the Torrents you want to the iPad.

4-1、ITUNES不强制“DRM必须有”。只不过从水果买来的强制有。你自己的音乐哔片黄书都能塞进ITUNES。就是用起ITUNES必须小心因为它非常坑爹。这是在说水果/ITUNES支持的限制格式而不是一定要花钱去买来。

你可以求任何种子然后塞进IPAD。

(种子是亮点)

5.Don't buy it, reverse engineer it like everything else
identicon Whirler, Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 3:32pm

LOL- from a country that fosters cheating and piracy... I am shocked. The real reason is because the device is locked down.

5、千万别买,山寨无所不能

笑——从一个盛产外挂和山寨的国家……老子震精了。真正的原因是机子是锁掉的关系吧。

6.It's too late: computers and fast data pipes exist
identicon anon, Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 8:11pm

It's too late: computers and fast data pipes to everywhere, including our pockets, exist. If it can be expressed by a computer, it can be copied, and will be.

So creating frameworks based on people not copying is always going to be a losing proposition. Some people recognise this, and have pretty much abandoned the old media. This Chinese review is an acknowledgement by someone within their immense bureaucracy of the real world.
6、太迟了:电脑和快速数据传输已经有了

太迟了:电脑和快速数据传输到处都有,包括咱的口袋里也有。只要电脑能读,就能一定拷来拷去。

所以说发明火线然后指望基友不发片不求种什么的肯定要亏本。有人注意到了,然后迅速扔掉旧媒体。天朝的意见是和谐下的产物。

和谐常常给出不同的观点,所以天朝从系统上开始慢慢搞起知屎产权,但又有人对知屎产权限制的思考不屑一顾。

大概我们的官老爷们没看攻略?

(我翻译的东西自己都无力吐槽了)

Bureaucracies often give conflicting points of view, so it is no surprise part of the Chinese system play the IP game, whilst other parts laugh at IP-thinking based restrictions.

Perhaps the official censors (or whoever) just didn't get the memo?

7.identicon ukyo_rulz, Oct 22nd, 2010 @ 8:53pm

A customer pays for the device, the electricity it runs on, internet access... Why is it that Apple feels that customers who are the real people supporting the company by spending their own money and fruits of their labor to acquire these devices are required to give up their control over devices they themselves own? When the time comes that customers decide to not put up with being treated like criminals - they will simply move onto a more open platform. Then Steve Jobs will complain that sales are dropping. Yet, Apple itself has caused the result...
I fear that Apple not taking this seriously. Rather, it expects paying customers to accept this crazy assumption of criminality, as if they deserve no control over their own possessions. May I ask Why? What in the hell is Apple thinking?

7、咱是花钱买东西的主……水果凭啥要求真正掏钱的消费者放弃对自己买来玩具的控制权?当时机成熟,当疯友不再想当囚犯之时,他们立马就转去开放平台了。接着乔老爷会抱怨坑来的钱少了。不过,水果是自作孽不可或……
我担心水果不把这事当真。反过来希望花钱的买主接受这种坑爹的观念,比如自己的东西不归自己管。我能问问这凭啥?水果TMD在想啥?

(好强的怨念……)

8.Anonymous Coward, Oct 23rd, 2010 @ 1:26am

I'll admit, China saying the device is too locked down/legal makes me go "LOL, YOUR ICLONES NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU NOW?"

Part of me is giddy to see that, China, of all countries is pointing out the idiot-switch on these devices. Maybe they might pass a law that requires for the devices to be hackable or something, and that opens the door for grey market models.

On the other hand, the entire reason these are locked down is because of countries like China, and most of Asia (including India) pirate things silly.

One might make the same argument from Japan claiming Americans don't respect their copyrights on games (Fan-translations), Anime (Fansubs), and Manga (Scanlations), as the average anime-watching teen or adult pirates most of the stuff they want to watch, and only buys the stuff they want to see more of.

8、我得承认瓷器关于这玩具太封闭/合法的观点很对胃口。“笑,你的克隆物还不如你?”

精分的我眼花的发现所有国家中,只有景德镇指出了这些玩具的白痴开关。大概他们会颁布法律允许越狱或者砸机器,或者索性保护盗版市场模式。

另一方面,爱拍被锁住的主因是景德镇和大部分亚洲国家(包括阿三)盗版盗的太没水准了。

可以参考的是鬼子的观点。米帝从来不尊重11区各种ACG版权(翻译帝、字幕帝、扫描帝),大部分想看水手服的大人小孩直接就盗版过来看了,然后再花一小点钱看更多一点的小裤裤。

(愤青无误)

9.Pretty much correct....
identicon Beldin, Oct 23rd, 2010 @ 3:40am

Aren't they just telling the truth? It might not be politically correct among the IPR crowd, but for most normal people it's 100% factually correct.
It is also the main reason I'll never buy one....

9、基本正确

他们知道真相了。从知屎产权角度看理论上是错的,对大部分普通人来百分百正确。
这就是老子不买它的原因……

(够直白)

10.Anonymous Coward, Oct 23rd, 2010 @ 7:12am

Right! China now worries about intellectual property after they ripped off most of the companies in the United States for their technology and then started their own state run companies to compete. When is the world going to wake up to the fact that China is the enemy and needs to expand or it will die. It will not die. It will expand at any cost and will run over the other governments of the world. 200 million armed soldiers. That doesn't scare the crap out of you?

10、好样的!天朝从米帝大部分公司抢到技术之后开始担心知屎产权了,接下来自己搞企业来竞争了。当世界惊醒后发现天朝是不断扩张的大敌就会完蛋了。天朝不会完蛋。不惜代价的扩张之后就是统治全人类。200000000军队。吓出屎没有?

(**威胁论看多了)

10-1.Re:
identicon Anonymous Coward, Oct 23rd, 2010 @ 10:05am

The fact that the U.S. has more patents than China hardly means that the U.S. is more innovative.(or inventive for that matter)

10-1、实际上米国专利比天朝多并不表示米国创新程度更高(或者说更有创造力)

(这还真不是反讽)

11.Seth Brundle, Oct 25th, 2010 @ 9:09am

China is not contradicting itself. Yes, China is a a rather draconian society and not one in which I want to live. However, copyrights don't necessarily add value to our society either. Two different topics.

11、天朝不是自相矛盾。是的,天朝是和谐(误)社会而且打死我也不去。不过,版权未必一定就为社会产生价值。一码归一码。

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