与奥巴马对话：战争与和平

与奥巴马对话：战争与和平 Dialogue with Barack Obama: War and Peace

时间：2009-12-20 19:19:00 Time :2009-12-20 19:19:00

地点：梦想家园 Location: Dream Home

人物：太阳风 People: Solar Wind 奥巴马 Obama

对话纪要…… Minutes of the dialogue ... ...

太阳风：您是第56届第44任第44位总统，从过去到现在，您的前面43位总统，没有一位总统没有发动过战争，请问，您的国家会不会出现不发动战争的总统？ The solar wind: You are the 56th 44th 44th presidents, from the past to the present, 43 in front of your president, not a president has not launched a war, I ask, your country will not appear the president is not waging war ?

奥巴马，带着特有的笑容：现在没有，将来会出现。 Obama, with a peculiar smile: Now is not the future will appear.

太阳风，看着奥巴马笑：您说的将来是多久？ The solar wind, watching Obama laugh: You say that the future is? 将来是什么概念？ What is the concept in the future?

奥巴马，真聪明：不久的将来。 Obama, really smart: the near future.

太阳风：您在任期间，会不会以总统的名义与权力下令发动一场战争？ The solar wind: In your office, will the name and powers of the president's order to launch a war?

奥巴马：我不懂你的意思，你说的战争如何定义的？ Obama: I do not know what you mean, you say the war in how to define it?

奥巴马岔开话题，有意避开话题。 Obama diverge topic, intended to avoid the topic.

太阳风：大量派兵进入别国领土，这是不是意味着战争？ The solar wind: a large number of troops into the territory of another State, does this mean war?

奥巴马：这个问题可以不回答吗？ Barack Obama: This question might not be answered?

太阳风：当然可以。 The solar wind: Of course. 请问，当你领取诺贝尔和平奖的时刻，你是不是决心当一个不发动战争的总统？ I ask, when you receive the Nobel Peace Prize moment, you are not a determination of when a president is not waging war?

奥巴马：我没有考虑，既然和平奖颁给我了，我当然要接受的。 Obama: I do not take into account, since the Peace Prize was awarded to me, I must accept.

太阳风：你认为和平奖是承认你的贡献，还是对你的承诺的肯定？ The solar wind: Do you think Peace Prize is recognition of your contribution, or an affirmation of your commitment?

奥巴马，谦卑：我刚刚上任12天，就被提名诺贝尔和平奖,这(诺贝尔奖)不是对我所取得的成就，而是对美国领导力的肯定。 Obama, humility: I just took 12 days, he was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize (Nobel Prize) is not my achievements, but rather an affirmation of the US-led forces. 我将接受这一奖项，作为对行动的呼吁。 I will accept this award as a call for action.

太阳风：美国媒体对总统获奖一致表示惊讶，您怎么看这个问题？ The solar wind: the U.S. media, the president expressed surprise at winning the same, how do you look at this issue?

奥巴马：我对获奖感到惊讶。 Obama: I was surprised to receive the award.

太阳风：你接受这一奖项，作为对行动的呼吁。 The solar wind: Do you accept this award as a call for action. 如何解释向阿富汗增兵3万人？ How to interpret the 30000 people send more troops to Afghanistan? 您有能力改变阿富汗做为“帝国坟场”的地位吗？ You have the ability to change in Afghanistan as "imperial cemetery" in position?

奥巴马：理想归理想，现实归现实，阿富汗却始终是一个巨大的变量，一百多年以来，大英帝国、前苏联先后在阿富汗这块土地上落下了灰头土脸狼狈撤出的下场。 Barack Obama: the ideal, reality is the reality that Afghanistan has always been a huge variable, one hundred years, the British Empire, the former Soviet Union has in Afghanistan, the withdrawal of this land came to a disgraced embarrassing end. 2011年7月后，新一轮大选启动，我可以根据当时的情况决定继续维持在阿富汗的驻军数量，“顺其自然”撤军迎合国内选民呼声，为自己连任打下良好基础，出发点是美好的。 In July 2011, a new round of elections to start, I can under the circumstances at the time decided to continue to maintain the number of troops in Afghanistan, "go with the flow" withdrawal to meet the national voice of the voters for their own re-lay a good foundation, the starting point is good.

太阳风：您很坦率，有人说你左手接过诺贝尔和平奖的勋章，右手挥动着阿富汗战争的指挥棒，您自己认为如何？ The solar wind: you are honest, some people say you left to take over the Nobel Peace Prize medal, his right hand waving the baton of the war in Afghanistan, How do you think?

奥巴马，有些不耐烦的样子：和平是和平，战争是战争，和平与战争不是一回事，不能一起谈，你不要老是谈战争战争的…… Obama, some of impatience: Peace is peace, war, war, peace and war is not one thing, not with talk, you do not always talk about war, war ... ...

太阳风：和平就是取消战争，战争就是破坏和平。 The solar wind: peace is the abolition of war, war is breach of the peace. 如果您是您的国家第一位不发动战争的总统，那么我们就不提战争，只谈和平，您可以做到吗？ If you are your country's first president not to wage war, then we will not mention the war, talk about peace, you can do that?

奥巴马：我是否发动战争，要靠历史说明，现在我无法给你保证，我的任期还在继续…… Obama: I wage war, to rely on historical explanation, and now I can not give you that my term of office continues ... ...

太阳风：您的心理状态，是看国家人民的意愿，还是看金融寡头和军火商的眼神？ The solar wind: Your state of mind, is to look at the national will of the people, or look at financial oligarchs and arms dealers in the eyes?

奥巴马，呵呵：你是要我看看你的脸色啦？ Obama, He He: Do you want me to see your face now?

太阳风：你能够看到我的脸色，请问，你看到了世界人民的眼色了吗？ The solar wind: You can see my face, may I ask, do you see the people of the world glance it?

奥巴马，端起茶杯，送客…… Obama, Duanqichabei, see a visitor ... ...

太阳风：请问，您这里有扫帚吗，我可以替你打扫打扫…… Solar wind: What you do there are a broom, I can sweep clean for you ... ...

奥巴马、太阳风两人都哈哈哈大笑起来…… Obama, the solar wind both Kazakhstan and a laugh ... ...

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