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[聊天记录翻译] 转世轮回与灵魂

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[聊天记录翻译] <wbr>转世轮回与灵魂

 

翻译者/责任人:吴畏

 

说明:以下聊天记录在翻译过程中为了便于阅读理解而对发言先后顺序做了调整,并且主要抽取出了由Sunette和Bernard直接参与的谈话,涉及到他人的对话内容主要是他们提出的问题,对话其余部分则未翻译。

 


[19:51] Topic changed: Reincarnation and the soul -- Sunette will have the floor
主题:转世轮回和灵魂——Sunette会开始讲解


[19:59] <Sunette> Reincarnation and the Soul
<Sunette>:转世轮回与灵魂


[19:59] <Sunette> Before earth existed ? beings existed throughout the universe, very much similarly to how we exist on earth now. They were born, not necessarily through a woman and they died. It was like coming from a planet and then returning to a planet upon death. Therefore, the nature-design of a being was related to the planets/stars.
<Sunette>: 在地球存在以前,存有们遍布整个宇宙,非常像我们如今在地球上的存在方式。他们会出生(但不必通过女人),他们也死亡。他们就好像从行星中来,然后在死亡时又回到行星中去。因此一个存有的本性设计样式是与行星/星球有关的。


[20:00] <Sunette> When it was discovered that Earth as Sound represented a perspective through which eternal life could be designed ? the idea of the soul was conceived and was marketed and sold to all the beings in the Universe.
<Sunette>:当等同声音的地球被发现提供了一个视角,由此可以设计永恒生命时,灵魂的观念就被孕育、推销并兜售给了宇宙中的所有存有们。


[20:00] <Sunette> The point was, that ensoulment of a Being would give them eternal-life. For that, the being had to become part of the planet Earth, or as it was called at the time: Atlantis; and then through a system ? which is the Mind Consciousness System; they would design an energy-body with the energy-body being the energy of the planet captured in-time as a system.
<Sunette> : 当时(关于灵魂所推销和兜售)的要点是,将灵魂赋予一个存有会给他们永恒生命。为此,这个存有必须得成为行星地球(那时地球被称为亚特兰蒂斯)的一部分,然后通过一个系统(也就是心智意识系统),他们会设计出一个能量身体,这个能量身体是由此行星的能量被捕获于时间中而产生的一个系统。


[20:01] <Sunette> (All - if you have any questions as you read - Ask, and we'll discuss)
<Sunette> :(所有人,如果你们在阅读时有任何问题,请发问,我们会讨论。)


[20:01] <Sunette> This was achieved through the capturing of images and relationships as memories and when a being has captured sufficient memories within the agreed context of what souls would be allowed to form part of the future eternal realm called ?heaven?: a being would become ensouled by being recognized as a soul by the hierarchy that set themselves up as command and control of the process of eternal-life.
<Sunette>:这是通过将图像和关系捕获成为记忆而做到的,当一个存有已经(根据当时大家同意了的:什么样的灵魂会被允许形成将来被称为天堂’的永恒之境的一部分)而捕获了足够多的记忆时,那么这个存有就会被一个等级体系(这个等级体系将他们自己设立为这个永恒生命的过程之中的指挥控制体系)认可为一个灵魂从而被赋予灵魂。


[20:01] <Sunette> Now, here it is important to remember or realise, the context of consciousness as it relates to memory, where memory is seen as ?giving values? which is then linked to either good or bad.
<Sunette>:注意,这里要记住或认识的非常重要的一点是:意识的情境,因为意识与记忆有关,而记忆被视作“赋予价值”,进而被连结到了好或坏。


[20:02] <Sunette> Those that were good, thus loyal to the hierarchy which later-on became known as The Light/God, would be allowed to form part of the Family of Light, which was given the name of ?Life? and be allowed to live eternally in Heaven in the company of God/The Light. To make sure that those allowed into heaven were Loyal ? a process of tests were designed which became known as reincarnation.
<Sunette> :那些好人——也就是那些忠于那个等级体系而后来成为了光/神的存有们,他们会被允许形成光之家族的一部分(光被称为“生命”),从而被允许永远活在天堂中神/光的公司中。为了确保那些被允许进入天堂的存有们是忠诚的,一个考验过程被设计出来了,这成为了我们现在所知的转世轮回。


[20:02] <Sunette> So - up to here, thus far - we have got the process of the creation of Reincarnation
<Sunette> :因此,到目前为止,我们讲了转世轮回的创造过程。


[20:03] <Sunette> Your lives on earth as a 'test' to your loyalty/servancy to God/White Light to 'deserve' your 'place in Heaven'
<Sunette> :你在地球这里的生命(过去)是对你的“考验”——“考验”你是否对神/白光忠诚并服务于它,以“赢得”你“在天堂中的地位”。


[20:03] <Sunette> The evidence of the ?loyalty? or ?disloyalty? were stored in the Akashic Records to be used on Judgment-day where the decision would be made whether you would go to Heaven as a Soul or to Hell as a Demon/De-Souled being. Because the design of the Soul was based-on Energy ? there was a Polarity that had to be directed.
<Sunette> :是否忠诚的证据被保存在了阿卡西记录中,被用于在审判日做出决定——你是作为一个灵魂进入天堂,还是作为一个魔鬼/无灵魂的存有进入地狱。由于灵魂的设计是建立在能量的基础上的,因此有两极性必须得到导引。


[20:04] <BernardPoolman1> you will find the idea/promise of eternal life or eternal damnation in most religiouns
<Bernard Poolman>:在大部分宗教中你都会发现对永恒生命或永恒惩罚的许诺/观念。


[20:05] <Sunette> Obviously, here - what beings didn't know/realise was the 'amount of lives' they'd have to walk on this earth to be 'judged' as loyal or disloyal - additionally, because they would not remember how many lives they'd already walked through and so - they could be 'enslaved' for as long as the hierarchies desires
<Sunette> :显然,在这里存有们未曾知道/认识到的是:在他们被“审判”为是忠诚的还是不忠诚的之前,他们必须得在这个地球上经历“多少生世”——除此之外,因为他们不会记住他们已经经历了多少生世,因此那个等级体系想要“奴役”他们多久就能“奴役”他们多久。


[20:05] <Sunette> Therefore ? having demons were essential to the existence of the Soul to allow the negative energy to be consumed and not to accumulate and cause problems to the balance of eternal Life.
<Sunette> :因此,当时魔鬼的存在对于灵魂的存在在本质上是必要的,为的是允许负面能量被消耗掉,而不是累积而对永恒生命的平衡造成问题。

 

[20:05] <Sunette> Therefore the positive energy were channelled to Heaven to create eternal life, and the negative energy was channelled to the demon-dimension to create ?Hell? so to speak. Both sides of the polarity were subject to a constant stream of energy.
<Sunette> :因此,正面能量被传输到天堂中去制造永恒生命,而负面能量被传输到魔界中去制造所谓的“地狱”。两极的双方都屈从于持续不断的能量流。


[20:06] <Sunette> So - here you have your Spirituality / Positivity - generating energy within the mind for Heaven
<Sunette> :因此,灵性/正面是在心智之中为天堂生成能量。


[20:06] <AnnaBrixThomsen> Were beings then also prompted/pushed to become demons?
<AnnaBrixThomsen> :那时的存有们也被往成为魔鬼的方向激励/推动吗?


[20:06] <BernardPoolman1> Loyalty had to be proven --thus no prompting other than to get to the real decision of the being
<Bernard Poolman>:忠诚必须被证明——因此,没有推动,只有存有自己做出真正的决定。


[20:07] <Sunette> Anna - no, they were contained in the demon dimension, especially in the beginnings as some beings were seen as threats to the equilibirum of the vibration of heaven and so were trapped into memories/experiences to 'contain' them and left them in the 'lower planes' where demons were formed
<Sunette>:Anna,没有,他们被囚禁在魔界中,尤其是在起初时,因为一些存有们被视作是对天堂的振动平衡产生威胁,因此他们被困在记忆/体验之中以“囚禁”他们,并把他们留在“较低层面”中,魔鬼们就是从那里形成的。


[20:07] <AnnaBrixThomsen> What was the ratio? Did it have to be 50/50 to maintain balance?
<AnnaBrixThomsen>:比例是多少?维持平衡是否必须得是50/50的比例?


[20:08] <BernardPoolman1> yes --loyalty meaning to submit to god without question for eternity
<Bernard Poolman>:是的——忠诚意味着屈从于神而永远不质疑。

 

[20:08] <Sunette> Anna - no
<Sunette> :Anna,没有。

 

[20:08] <AnnaBrixThomsen> ok thanks
<AnnaBrixThomsen> :好的,谢谢。


[20:09] <Sunette> The ratio was maintained through the unified consciousness field that would callibrate the extent of positive and negative energy - and when the positive is low, they'd insert ways/means/events to lift the vibrations of minds in humans to generate positive energy - through spirtituality/religion/sex
<Sunette> :比例是通过联合意识场来维持的,联合意识场会调校正面能量和负面能量的程度——当正面能量低时,他们会植入一些方法/手段/事件来提升人类心智的振动用以生成正面能量——通过灵性/宗教/性爱。


[20:09] <BernardPoolman1> once a demon --you were no longer part of reincarnation unless you stole a body
<Bernard Poolman>:一旦成了魔鬼,你就不再是转世轮回的一部分了,除非你偷一个身体。


[20:08] <MattiFreeman> the people in this chat - were we mostly loyal to heaven, or demons, or have we done it all?
<MattiFreeman> :参与目前这个聊天的人——我们是大部分都曾忠于天堂,还是做过魔鬼,还是我们全都做过?


[20:09] <Sunette> lol Matti - we've all been around the wheel of existence
<Sunette>:哈哈,Matti,我们全都在整个存在之轮中到处转过。


[20:08] <mikelammers> so it was either licking feet or fucking of and roam as a demon? As below so above?
<mikelammers>:因此你要么跪拜在地,要么滚蛋而成为魔鬼到处游荡?天上如此,地上也如此?


[20:09] <KimKline> What determined the real decision of the being?
<KimKline>:什么决定了一个存有的真正决定?


[20:09] <Joana> was there a choice?
<Joana>:存在着选择吗?


[20:10] <BernardPoolman1> hte choice was either loyalty to god regardless --or to reincarnte to see if you would become loyal or to be send to the demon dimensions
<Bernard Poolman>: 当时的选择是:要么你无论如何都忠于神,要么转世轮回考验你是否能变得忠诚,要么你被送入魔界。


[20:11] <BernardPoolman1> free choice was to choose god
<Bernard Poolman>: 自由选择在当时是选择神。


[20:12] <RandyKrafft> so there wasn't 'free' choice, then
<RandyKrafft>:那么根本就不存在“自由”选择了。


[20:12] <Sunette> No Randy
<Sunette>:是不存在,Randy


[20:12] <kim__A> wow so you'd remain a demon forever
<kim__A>:哇,那就会永远是魔鬼了


[20:13] <BernardPoolman1> yes--eternal damnation kim
<Bernard Poolman>:Kim, 是的——永恒的惩罚


[20:10] <RubenMoutinho> Is there a difference between positive and negative energy?
<RubenMoutinho>:正面能量与负面能量有区别吗?


[20:11] <Sunette> Ruben - yes and no - the substance of the energy was the same as created through the mind in polarity - but the nature of the energy differed, as negative energy was more heavier/substantial and positive energy more airy-fairy
<Sunette>:Ruben,答案是既有又没有——能量的实质是相同的,都是通过心智在两极之中制造出来的;但是能量的性质不同,因为负面能量更沉重/有实质性,而正面能量更轻飘飘/空洞。


[20:12] <BernardPoolman1> in a way the negative was the dark energy and the positive the light energy
<Bernard Poolman>:在一定意义上,负面能量是暗能量,而正面能量是光能量。


[20:12] <Sunette> Okay - let's continue:
<Sunette>:好的,我们继续:


[20:12] <Sunette> The being that would reincarnate would reincarnate within a chosen-test format with little recall of previous-lives and once they die, the new life?s memories would be stored in the Akaschic Records where it would be studied by the hierarchy to see if a being has proven their loyalty to God.
<Sunette>:转世轮回的存有将会转世轮回到一个选择的考验形式之中,而几乎回忆不起以前的生世,当他们死亡时,这新的一生的记忆就会被储存在阿卡西记录中,由等级体系进行研究,考察这个存有是否已经证明了他们对神的忠诚。


[20:13] <Sunette> Thus, would they support and remain part of the system and never question the hierarchy. If a person / soul were found to be ready ? they would ascend and be freed from the cycle of rebirth/tests and they would be allowed to choose a life-path which would either be service to the hierarchy in various forms, like ? being a guide, or being a researcher in the Akaschic Records or being the Pillar eternal-society to keep the energy stable
 <Sunette>:因此,他们会支持这个系统并成为这个系统的一部分而永远不质疑等级体系。如果一个人/灵魂被发现准备好了,他们就会上升并被从重生/考验的循环中解脱出来,然后他们会被允许选择一个生命旅程——而这会以各种形式服务于等级体系,如成为一个指导灵,或者成为阿卡西记录的一个研究员,或者成为永恒社会的支柱而维持能量的稳定。


[20:13] <AntonF> and which god was that sunettte, as there were zoo of them?
 <AntonF>:Sunette,那神是什么?是有一群神吗?


[20:13] <Sunette> AntonF - 'God' / 'The White Light' / 'Anu'
<Sunette>:AntonF,“神”/“白光”/“安努


[20:14] <Sunette> For these purposes ? Families of Light were created, which would work together to establish a particular energy-dimension where a certain amount of beings that?s ensouled would be able to exist for eternity in a form of ?positive happiness? and bliss, similarly to being on a form of drugs.
<Sunette>:为了达到这些目的,光之家族被创立了,他们会一起合作确立一个特定的能量维度,在其中一定数量的被赋予了灵魂的存有们能够永远存在于一种“正面的幸福和极乐”状态中,与吸毒的人很相似。

 

[20:15] <Sunette> And, if one look at for example, drugs/alcohol - it give one that positive/heavenly experience - equal-to and one-with that heavenly-experience self as the soul desired and so addictions are created to energy/heaven/afterlife searching for the 'better life' as we're pre-programmed to yearn for 'that experience'
<Sunette>:并且,如果你看一看毒品/酒精——这些东西给人一种正面/天堂般的体验,这与作为灵魂的自己所渴望的天堂般的体验是等同如一的,由此制造出了对能量/天堂/死后生命世界的上瘾,寻求着“更好的生命”,因为我们被预先编码了对“那种体验”的渴望。


[20:14] <Manuela> Sunette: how was the positive negative energy measured - through the unified field - but how?
<Manuela>:Sunette,正面能量和负面能量那时是如何度量的?通过联合意识场?但是如何度量呢?


[20:15] <Sunette> Manuela - through a magnetic unified field encircling the world-unified field from which energy/frequency tests were done to assess the ratios
<Sunette>:Manuela,是通过一个环绕着世界联合场的磁性联合场来做能量/频率检验的,用以评估正负能量的比例。


[20:18] <Manuela> Sunette is their a relation to this technology within what we experience as gravity?
<Manuela>:Sunette,我们体验到的万有引力与这种科技是否有关?


[20:19] <Sunette> Manuela - which technology?
<Sunette> :Manuela,什么科技?


[20:20] <Manuela> the technology of taking tests to understand the levels of frequency for calibration Sunette
<Manuela>:Sunette,我是指用于检验频率级别以进行调校的那些科技。


[20:22] <Sunette> Manuela - it's not technology per say; the measurement was done interdimensionally/physically as the beings themselves/through the beings themselves that stood equal-to and one with the frequencies/energies and callibrations and could do the test through themselves
<Sunette>:Manuela,那些并非科技,那些测量的做法是跨维度/物质性地等同/通过那些存有他们自己立于与频率/能量和调校等同如一,因此他们可以通过他们本身进行校验。


[20:15] <BernardPoolman1> in higher frequencies--the higher the frequency --the higher the heavens
<Bernard Poolman>:在更高的频率中——频率越高,天堂越高。


[20:15] <Carolyne_Schnidr> is frequancy same as enery?
[20:15] <Carolyne_Schnidr> energy?
<Carolyne_Schnidr>:频率与能量相同吗?


[20:16] <BernardPoolman1> yes --- frequency/vibration is the rate with which the energy moves --the faster it moves--the more exitement --like a sugar high
<Bernard Poolman>:相同。频率/振动是能量运动的速率,而能量运动越快,激动就越强,就好像吃糖带来的快感一样。


[20:17] <Sunette> Yes, though - there was 'frequency' in the dimensional existence different from the current understanding of frequency - which was a mix between energy and magnetics that created an extensive 'force/movement' and was often used to create fields around energy/to contain energy
<Sunette>:相同,可是在维度存在界中曾有一种与目前理解的频率不同的“频率”,这种频率是介于能量和磁性之间的一种混合体,它能产生一股很强的“力/运动”,曾常被用于在能量周围产生力场来容纳能量。


[20:17] <kim__A> sunette - were these 'heavenly blissful beings' aware that they were consuming the energy from earth - or did they have nice stories that cover up the truth?
<kim__A>:Sunette,那些“天堂般极乐的存有们”曾觉察他们是在消耗来自地球的能量吗?还是他们编造了一些美丽的故事来掩盖真相?


[20:18] <Sunette> kim_A - some knew, others didn't - but was always believed that, that connection of energy was 'god' / 'white light' unifying/keeping in contact with its children / creation
<Sunette>:Kim_A,有一些人知道,其余人不知道——但他们一直都相信:能量的连结是“神”/“白光”在与其孩子/创造物联合统一/保持联系。


[20:17] <BernardPoolman1> the mind consciousness system was the factory with which the energy was produced through "natural" living
<Bernard Poolman>:心智意识系统是个工厂,能量由此通过“自然”的生活而被生产出来。


[20:18] <BernardPoolman1> energy of the mind is either feelings or emotions --feelings being higher and emotions being lower
<Bernard Poolman>:心智的能量或者是感觉或者是情绪——感觉高一些,情绪低一些。


[20:19] <Deedra_> so in heaven where there ever 'experiences of feelings or emotions'?
 <Deedra_>:那么在天堂中曾经有过“感觉或能量的体验”吗?


[20:19] <Sunette> Deedra_ only feelings / positive energy as all of heaven was layered into different vibrations of one pure/positive/good energy
[20:19] <Sunette> All the bad stuff was kept down there by humans and demons
<Sunette> :Deddra,在天堂中只有感觉/正面能量,因为所有的天堂都是由一种纯粹/正面/好的能量层叠进不同的振动之中的。所有的坏能量都被压在下面的人类和魔鬼那里。


[20:21] <BernardPoolman1> the way the heavens we layered where through frequency bands --like a magnetic layer that repel any one that is not of the particular frequency to make sure each one end up in the dimension they belong to or have achieved --this hapened bewtween lives while waiting for reincarnation
<Bernard Poolman>: 过去天堂的层叠是通过频率带实现的,就好像一个磁层一样,它会排斥任何不属于那个特定频率的人,以确保每个人都处于他们所属或达到的维度中——这在两次生世之间的等待转生期间发生过。


[20:21] <AnnaBrixThomsen> lol bad science fiction movies are molded in the image and likeness of reality
<AnnaBrixThomsen>:哈哈,像是糟糕的科幻电影被塑造进了实在的形象和行象之中。


[20:22] <MattiFreeman> heaven was the highest budget movie ever
<MattiFreeman> :天堂是有史以来预算最高的电影了。

 

[20:22] <BernardPoolman1> yes mattifreeman --it was all about the show--just like it is now on earth
<Bernard Poolman>:是的,mattifreeman,全都只是关于演出,就像现在地球上的一样。

 

[20:22] <Sunette> Okay - let's move on and recap for a moment:
<Sunette>:好的,我们继续,暂时先概括一下:

 

[20:23] <Sunette> For these purposes ? Families of Light were created, which would work together to establish a particular energy-dimension where a certain amount of beings that?s ensouled would be able to exist for eternity in a form of ?positive happiness? and bliss, similarly to being on a form of drugs.
<Sunette>:为了达到这些目的,光之家族被创立了,他们会一起合作确立一个特定的能量维度,在其中一定数量的被赋予了灵魂的存有们能够永远存在于一种“正面的幸福和极乐”状态中,与吸毒的人很相似。


[20:23] <Sunette> This state of high energy-vibration ? would then be called ?Love?. The nice thing about this ensoulment process was that, the energy were harvested but the memories were separated from the being at death, and therefore the being would not remember eventually what happened on earth as they would be ? through the directed messages on earth, focused on the ideal of eternal-life.
<Sunette>:这种高能量振动状态就会被称为“爱”。在这个赋予灵魂的过程中一件巧妙的事是,存有的能量被收割走了,但当此存有死亡时,记忆却与他分离开了,因此这个存有不会记起最终在地球上发生了什么,因为他们会通过在地球上受控的消息而专注于永恒生命的理念上。


[20:23] <BernardPoolman1> all about controlling the desires and hopes of the beings--to achieve eternal life
<Bernard Poolman>:这些全都是为了控制人们对达到永恒生命的欲望和希望。


[20:23] <Carolyne_Schnidr> Is there a difference between mind created energy through emotions thoughts and feelings and energy like feng shui wind water and influence of stars to humna beeings?
<Carolyne_Schnidr>:心智通过情绪、思想和感觉产生的能量与诸如风水和天体对人类产生影响的能量之间有区别吗?


[20:24] <Sunette> Carolyne - nope, same mind-energy, different :'experience/definition' - but same mind-energy generation
<Sunette>:Carolyne,没有区别,是同样的心智能量,不同的“体验/定义”,但是同样的心智能量产生。


[20:25] <BernardPoolman1> carolyne -- wind, water, fengshui, the starts were all symbolic inflkuences that would stimulate particular programms to create specific types of energy to supply to specifc dimensions--there were many dimensions each requiring their particular energy in a steady flow--thus the control of the mind in relation to stimulus and production had to be very steady and that is why it is so difficult to break the control patterns
<Bernard Poolman>:carolyne,风、水、风水和天体以前都是符号象征性的影响,它们会激活心智之中特定的程序,创造特定类型的能量,以供应给特定的维度空间,以前有许多维度空间,每一个都需要有稳定流动的特定能量——因此与刺激和产生能量相关的心智控制必须得非常稳定,这就是为什么打破模式的控制如此困难。


[20:25] <Antoaneta> kind of like a code you tuned into Bernard?
<Antoaneta>:有点儿像一个人调频进入的编码,Bernard?


[20:27] <BernardPoolman1> yes antoaneta
<Bernard Poolman>:是的,antoaneta


[20:23] <MayaH> Sunette: what is the families of light?
<MayaH>:Sunette,什么是光之家族?


[20:25] <Sunette> MayaH - Group Souls / Groups of beings in Heaven creating/existing in their own heaven
<Sunette>:MayaH,光之家族是指在天堂中的灵魂群体/存有群体,他们创造他们自己的天堂并存在于其中。


[20:26] <MayaH> so that was after they ascended the reincarnation sunette?
<MayaH>:Sunette,那是在他们从转世轮回中提升后吗?


[20:27] <Sunette> MayaH - yes
<Sunette>: MayaH,是的。


[20:24] <RandyKrafft> so is this where the family construct - as we know it - came into being - as a by-product of the ';families of light'?
<RandyKrafft>:那么这是否就是我们如今所知的家族构造起源的地方——是“光之家族”的副产物?


[20:26] <Sunette> RandyKrafft - no, the concept of family came waaaayyyyy before that, already with all the races established in the dimensions before humans/earth
<Sunette>: RandyKrafft,不是的,家族观念的出现远远远远在那之前,在人类/地球存在以前,在维度界中已经确立起的所有族群中就已经有家族观念了。


[20:26] <BernardPoolman1> families of light were nbeings of likeness --where like attratcts like --like the ultimate ego boost to meet more versions of yourself yet being uniqiue
<Bernard Poolman>:光之家族是一些相似的存有——物以类聚,人以群分——这就好像对臆构自我的终极推升,你遇见更多版本的你自己,然而又独一无二。


[20:27] <DavidDuncan> so we've always been about only chasing a high and wanting to be in a safe place, only ever looking out for ourselves and following self-interest - not really ever considering the experience of anything or anyone else no matter what the suffering - it's just self-interest, self-interest, self-interest
<DavidDuncan>:我们一直都是在追寻快感,想要处于一个安全的地方,永远只是在寻求我们自己,遵从着自私自利,从来都没有真正考虑过任何人或事物的经历,无论他们处于怎样的苦痛中——就只是自私自利,自私自利,自私自利


[20:27] <BernardPoolman1> yes--it has always only been self interest --seeking eternal life
<Bernard Poolman>:是的,一直都只是自私自利——寻求永恒生命


[20:28] <AnnaBrixThomsen> Sunette, so no family of light while on earth or in between incarnations as described by Michael Newton?
<AnnaBrixThomsen>:Sunette,那么不存在如迈克尔•牛顿所描述的在地球上或在转世轮回之间的光之家族了?(译注:这个牛顿不是我们熟知的那个著名科学家。)


[20:29] <Sunette> No Anna - on earth you had group souls and family of light in the context of your family/relationships/religions/spirituality as group of definitions you belonged to - and no in-between with reincarnations, once you got out, you were immediately processed back into reincarnation when/as it was decided for you to return
<Sunette>:Anna,在地球上存在着灵魂群体和光之家族,这是从如下方面说的:你的家族/关系/宗教/灵性是你所从属的群体的定义;而在转世轮回之间则不存在那些,一旦你从转世轮回中出来了,而当他们决定了你需要回去时,你就会被立即进行处理而送回到转世轮回中。


[20:28] <BernardPoolman1> the families of light described in the newton books were presented by the dimensions in the LIGHT they want you to see it
<Bernard Poolman>:在牛顿的书中所描述的光之家族是由处于光之中的多维度界呈现的,他们想要你看到。

 
[20:29] <Sunette> Okay - let's continue with a recap:
<Sunette>:好的,我们继续做个概括:


[20:30] <Sunette> This state of high energy-vibration ? would then be called ?Love?. The nice thing about this ensoulment process was that, the energy were harvested but the memories were separated from the being at death, and therefore the being would not remember eventually what happened on earth as they would be ? through the directed messages on earth, focused on the ideal of eternal-life.
<Sunette>:这种高能量振动状态就会被称为“爱”。在这个赋予灵魂的过程中一件巧妙的事是,存有的能量被收割走了,但当此存有死亡时,记忆却与他分离开了,因此这个存有不会记起最终在地球上发生了什么,因为他们会通过在地球上受控的消息而专注于永恒生命的理念上。


[20:30] <Sunette> And, the separation of reality and energy / physicality and energy / system and energy would already happen on earth through the creation of energetic consciousness, where the energy-body would be the soul that would go through a process of emotional/feeling purification to establish whether the soul?s alignment would be heaven or hell.
<Sunette>:而且,现实与能量/肉体与能量/系统与能量的分离已经在地球上通过创造能量性质的意识发生了,其中能量身体是灵魂,这灵魂会经历一个情绪/感觉净化过程,以确定这个灵魂是校准于天堂还是地狱。


[20:30] <Sunette> And the memories would mostly be left in the physical-body with some of it, magnetically recorded to be stored for study in the Akashic Record. This stored life as memories is very similar to the storage of a movie on a DVD. All the physical technology that exist today, was first used as the technology of the soul.
<Sunette>:记忆大部分都会被留在物质身体之中,其中的一部分会通过磁性记录储存在阿卡西记录中用于研究。这储存为记忆的生命与在DVD上储存电影非常相似。如今存在着的物质科技以前首先是被用作灵魂的科技。


[20:31] <Sunette> lol - so, we literally externalized our evolution into machines
<Sunette>:哈哈,因此我们实质上将我们的进化外在化成了机器。


[20:31] <mikelammers> And the memories would mostly be left in the physical-body?
<mikelammers>:记忆会主要留在物质身体中?

 
[20:32] <BernardPoolman1> yes mikelammers--thhe amount of memories created in every moment were too much for recording
<Bernard Poolman>:是的,mikelammers,在每一刻产生的记忆的数量太大而无法记录。


[20:32] <Sunette> mikelammers - yes, only the memories that can be used that was imprinted enough with energy and the being's relationship towards the memories would be taken with the soul into the Akashic Records to be re-used for the programming of their next life / other lives
<Sunette>:mikelammers,是的,只有那些已经通过足够的能量和此存有与那些记忆的关系而铭印得足够深入的可用记忆,才会由灵魂携带进入到阿卡西记录中,再被重新用于编码他们的下一生/其它生世。


[20:32] <BernardPoolman1> thus--it was contextualize to the essence of the relavant goal --which were energy production to keep heaven blissfull
<Bernard Poolman>:因此,记录下的记忆是情境化于相关目标的本质的——也就是产生能量以保持天堂处于极乐状态


[20:32] <Joana> what about the bodies? Or we are talking only energy-body as a vibration, before the human body was invented?
<Joana>:身体又如何呢?我们只是在谈论在人类身体被发明以前以振动形式存在的能量身体吗?


[20:33] <BernardPoolman1> the human form did not exist before earth
<Bernard Poolman>:人类形态在地球存在以前不存在。


[20:34] <BernardPoolman1> the human form was designed as symbols and the attraction is preprogrammed --just like animals will respond to their form --the form is really irreleavnt in it all
<Bernard Poolman>:人类形态的设计等同符号,而吸引是被预先编码的,就像动物会对它们的形态做出响应一样——形态在这一切之中真的无关紧要。


[20:34] <Sunette> Joana - 'energy body' is the 'body' that was created as the relationship between the being and the mind that create/manifest consciousness - self as an 'energy body/being' as 'what one exist as / become' with one's relationship with the mind
<Sunette>:Joana,“能量身体” 被创造成为此存有与其心智之间的关系(这关系创造/显现意识)——作为“能量身体/存有”的自己是你在与你的心智之间的关系中“所是/所成为的”事物。


[20:34] <Manuela> so what consituted 'useful' memories Sunette - that would be selected for the akashic records?
<Manuela>:Sunette,什么构成了“有用的”记忆——那些为阿卡西记录选用的记忆?


[20:35] <Sunette> Manuela - memories that can be used to re-programme events/experiences or enough energy to stimulate the mind and produce more energy for heaven
<Sunette>:Manuela,那些记忆能被用于重新编码事件/经历,或有足够能量用于刺激心智而为天堂产生更多能量。


[20:35] <BernardPoolman1> the whole energy/soul thing was similar to the capitalistic system --if you had the energy/momeny --you went to heaven
<Bernard Poolman>:整个能量/灵魂这套东西与资本主义制度非常相似——如果你有能量/金钱,你会去天堂。


[20:36] <Sunette> Yes, so - if you worked hard enough through the mind and accumulate lots of energy for heaven - you will be rewarded / if you work hard enough in the system and accumulate money for the banks - you will be rewarded
<Sunette>:是的,因此如果你通过你的心智足够努力地工作并为天堂累积大量的能量,那么你就会得到奖赏;如果你在体制中足够努力地工作并为银行累积大量的金钱,那么你就会得到奖赏。


[20:36] <BernardPoolman1> People that claim to see past lives only see very partly and it is always to serve self ineterest
<Bernard Poolman>:那些声称看到过去生世的人只看到非常片面的一部分,而且那总是服务于个人利益。


[20:37] <BernardPoolman1> there will be extensive interviews on this coming
<Bernard Poolman>:将会有大量的视频访谈讨论这些。


[20:38] <BernardPoolman1> it is extensive to explain it all
<Bernard Poolman>:解释这一切的量极大。


[20:36] <kim__A> so literally all the rich people from earth went to heaven?
<kim__A>:那么几乎地球上所有的有钱人都去了天堂?


[20:38] <Sunette> kim_A - all the elite, like money system elite/world system elite came through from bloodlines and was always protected in heaven and on earth
<Sunette>:Kim_A,所有的精英,如金钱系统精英/世界系统精英,他们全都来自那些在天堂中和在地球上都总是受到保护的那些血统。


[20:38] <Sunette> Okay - Next points:
<Sunette>:好的,接下来的一些点:


[20:38] <Sunette> The idea that was sold, was that ? if you remain loyal to the Light and God, you will achieve a form of equality through a life of bliss and love and light in heaven with your family of light.
<Sunette>:当时兜售的观念是什么?——如果你对光和神保持忠诚,那么你就会在天堂中与你的光之家族通过极乐、爱和光的一生达到某种形式的平等。


[20:38] <Sunette> To achieve this ? the information necessary to direct the Mind to form ensouled-consciousness was channelled through forms of structured-knowledge like writing and the placement of specific-masters that would assist the human in their focused-attention, to focus the energy in creating a stable energy-body as there were many mansions/dimensions necessary to be filled, as there could not be just one dimension within the context polarity.
<Sunette>:为了达到这些目的,需要有必要的信息来指挥心智以便形成赋予了灵魂的意识,这些信息的传输是通过结构化的知识如书写品,以及安置特定的大师来协助人类将注意力专注于能量上,以创造一个稳定的能量身体,因为当时存在着如此多的宫殿/维度需要得到满足——因为在两极性这个情境之中不可能只有一个维度。


[20:39] <mikelammers> there were many mansions/dimensions necessary to be filled sounds like product ranges
<mikelammers>:“当时存在着如此多的宫殿/维度需要得到满足”——听起来好像商品区


[20:40] <BernardPoolman1> yes--heavenly walmart to satisfy all desires --like in Islam they promise the virgins
<Bernard Poolman>:是的,天堂沃尔玛超市满足所有欲望——例如在伊斯兰他们许诺处女。


[20:40] <AntonF> yes b, 72 of them with eternal erection.
<AntonF>:是的,Bernard,他们被许诺有72个处女而且永远勃起不倒。


[20:44] <Sunette> AntonF - no, in Heaven did not see anything like that - there were lots of sexualized heavens - but, not one like that or not a large one, if beings did create heavens of their religions, they would do it themselves and be trapped in there themselves - the largest heavens was God, with Angels
<Sunette>:AntonF,没有,在天堂中没看到过那样的场景——确实是有许多化的天堂,但没有像那样的,或者没有那样一个很大的天堂。如果存有们确实创造了他们所属宗教的天堂,他们会自己那样做,并被自己囚困在那里。曾经最大的天堂是神,带有天使。


[20:40] <Sunette> So - what the above paragraph entails is how, for example religions and spiritualities and the variations of that was placed in this world - to channel the beings' mind/focus to produce specific substances of energy / ensure a constant stream of energy creation as they are focused into/as one system
<Sunette>:上面那段(指[20:38]那段)表明的是:宗教和灵性及其各种各样的变体是如何被安置于这个世界中,用以将人们的心智/注意力传导至生产特定的能量质/保障能量流的持续创造上,而人们则在其中专注成了一个系统。


[20:41] <Sunette> There would be many different approaches by masters that would create different forms or ideas of consciousness, one using yoga, one using meditation, one using Breatharian ideas, one using Islam, one using Christianity and then many variations of this.
<Sunette>:那些大师们采用的方法有许多,由此制造出意识的许多不同形式或观念,例如一个大师可能会用瑜珈,一个用冥想,一个用辟谷观念,一个用伊斯兰教,一个用基督教,还有许许多多变体。


[20:41] <Joana> Sunette, in many religious places there is always some kind of miracle - how is that connecte dwith the energy?
<Joana>:Sunette,在许多宗教场所中总是有某种奇迹,这是如何与能量联系起来的?


[20:42] <BernardPoolman1> Miracles focus the attention of the mind system to produce specific types of energy
<Bernard Poolman>:奇迹将心智系统的注意力集中于生产特定类型的能量。


[20:42] <Sunette> Joana - that we will explain in interviews to come
<Sunette>:Joana,这些我们会在将来的视频访谈中解释。


[20:41] <Manuela> Sunette- so attention was the main aspect and that was "produced" through specific activities
<Manuela>:Sunette,注意力是主要的方面,而这是通过特定的活动“产生”的?


[20:42] <Sunette> Manuela - energy was the main goal, and that was produced through channeling their attention into/as particular specific 'activities' / 'religions' / 'spiritualities' / 'life experiences' to ensure the being remain stable/constant into/towards a particular part of this reality to always produce energy
<Sunette>:Manuela,能量才是主要的目的,而这是通过将他们的注意力传导到特定的具体“活动”/“宗教”/“灵性”/“生命体验”上,以确保存有们保持稳定/恒定地进入/成为这个现实的一个特定部分,以便总是生产能量。


[20:43] <TimGormley> Sunette, would heaven have eventually ran out of energy producers if everyone would have been placed in heaven or hell, or would they find new energy producers in the universe?
<TimGormley>:Sunette,如果每个人都已经被安置于天堂或者地狱之中,那么天堂最终不会已经用光了能量生产者吗?还是他们会在宇宙中寻找新的能量生产者?


[20:43] <BernardPoolman1> tim--new beings were created constantly--there was a ready supply
<Bernard Poolman>:tim,新的存有们被持续不断地创造出来,因此随时都有供应。

 

[20:45] <Sunette> TimGormley - yes, earth was their primary production house, so - they obviouslty ensured that there's always sufficient beings on earth
<Sunette>:TmGormley,是的,地球曾是他们的主要生产厂房,因此显然他们会确保在地球上总是有足够的人生产能量。


[20:44] <Manuela> a ready supply BernardPoolman1 ?
<Manuela>:随时供应?Bernard


[20:44] <BernardPoolman1> yes--just like you think an idea into BEING
<Bernard Poolman>:是的,就像你通过思考将一个观念带入到存在中一样。


[20:45] <Manuela> dang - though my ideas are always "revised" because the physical rules
<Manuela>:可是我的观念总是由于物理规律而被“修正”。


[20:45] <BernardPoolman1> revised ideas were sevaral BEINGS
<Bernard Poolman>:修正了的那些观念是几个不同的存在者/存有。


[20:45] <BernardPoolman1> as the BEINGS group it becomes an antity and when you choose your idea --a possession
<Bernard Poolman>:
随着这些存有们结集成群,它成为一个实体,而如果你选择你的观念,就会导致受支配着魔。


[20:45] <MattiFreeman> so after the white light was removed, as a lightworker with fluctuating motivation, various spiritual paths opened up with different activities and opportunities, like a fresh approach that would support me in generating energy when I would start to lose motivation -- what continued to direct these?
<MattiFreeman>:在白光被移除后,作为一个有着波动起伏动力的光之工作者,有各种不同活动和机会的各种灵性道路打开了,就好像是出现了一个可以在我开始失去动力时支持我产生能量的全新方式,那么是什么继续在指挥这一切?


[20:46] <Sunette> MattiFreeman - you did, remember, everything was automated in the mind/physical world through the mind/consciousness and so your mind would also go into defence/protection mode to protect/defend itself
<Sunette>:MattiFreeman,是你,要记住,一切都曾在心智/物质世界中通过心智/意识自动化了,因此你的心智也会进入防御/保卫模式来保护/防卫它自己。


[20:46] <BernardPoolman1> there were only one planet of sound LEFT
<Bernard Poolman>:源于声音的行星只剩下了一个


[20:46] <BernardPoolman1> the rest have been consumed by self interest
<Bernard Poolman>:其余的已经被自私自利消耗尽了


[20:46] <AnnaBrixThomsen> earth
<AnnaBrixThomsen>:地球


[20:46] <WeiWu> not all planets are of sound?
<WeiWu>:不是所有的行星都来源于声音?


[20:47] <BernardPoolman1> not in the same contex weiwu
<Bernard Poolman>:不是在同一个语境下说的,weiwu


[20:47] <Sunette> Okay - next points:
<Sunette>:接下来的一些点:

 

[20:47] <Sunette> There would be many different approaches by masters that would create different forms or ideas of consciousness, one using yoga, one using meditation, one using Breatharian ideas, one using Islam, one using Christianity and then many variations of this.
<Sunette>:那些大师们采用的方法有许多,由此制造出意识的许多不同形式或观念,例如一个大师可能会用瑜珈,一个用冥想,一个用辟谷观念,一个用伊斯兰教,一个用基督教,还有许许多多变体。


[20:47] <Sunette> Through this ? forming groups that will eventually form part and parcel of the construction of an energy-dimension in heaven, where the Family of Light ? that means those that has similar image and likeness as soul-energy; would be together to experience a form of oneness and that that togetherness of oneness as a concentration of energy: would enhance the bliss and love experience as more and more of them get together.
<Sunette>:由此形成一些群体,这些群体最终会形成用于建构天堂中一个能量维度空间的组成部分,而光之家族(这是指那些作为灵魂能量具有相似的形象和行象的存有们)就会聚到一起体验某种形式的一体体验,而随着越来越多的成员加入,那种在一起的一体作为一种集中了的能量就会增强那种极乐和爱的体验。


[20:48] <Manuela> so equality never existed anywhere as manifestiation of life BernardPoolman1 ?
<Manuela>:那么平等作为生命的实现从来都没有在任何地方存在过,是这样吗,Bernard?


[20:48] <BernardPoolman1> no manuela
<Bernard Poolman>:是没有存在过,Manuela。


[20:48] <Sunette> As you can notice ? the planned-deception was near perfect and thus very difficult to see through.
<Sunette>:正如你们会注意到的,这有计划的欺骗几乎完美无暇,因此非常难以看穿。


[20:48] <Sunette> For it all to work effectively, all the humans had to be convinced that the realm of earth/physicality is actually an illusion; while the realm of the soul is the ?true reality?. This was achieved with extra-ordinary success. As the whole concept of the soul was only possible through focused self-interest with the objective to create, for oneself ? an eternal-body through which you could experience yourself in a high vibration forever.
<Sunette>:为了使这一切有效运作,必须使所有人类都相信:地球/物质世界的境域实际上是幻觉,而灵魂的境域是真正的现实。这取得了非凡的成就。因为这整套灵魂的观念之所以成为可能只有通过专注的自私自利——目标是为你自己创造一个永恒的身体,借此你可以在一个高振动频率中永远体验你自己。


[20:49] <Sunette> Obviously ? all the souls missed one critical point: they did not realise that this ?eternal life? was not really eternal, it was subject to a constant stream of energy and therefore reincarnation had to continue for eternity or as long as a planet would survive or the energy would run out. You can see here, where consumerism came from ? long before it was established on earth and where the era of oil and energy came from.
<Sunette>:显然,所有灵魂都忽略了的一个关键要点是:他们没有认识到这“永恒生命”并非真正是永恒的,它屈从于一个持续的能量流,因此转世轮回必须得永远继续下去或者行星得能继续存活下去,否则能量就会用光。你在这里可以看到消费主义/消耗主义是来自哪里了吗?远远在其出现在地球上(石油和能源时代)之前,消费主义/消耗主义就已经存在了!


[20:49] <Sunette> How heaven consumed the energy of the physical - how we consume the energy of the earth
天堂如何消耗了物质世界的能量——我们如何消耗地球的能量。


[20:50] <BernardPoolman1> as above so below
<Bernard Poolman>:天上如此,地上也如此。


[20:50] <BernardPoolman1> as below so above
<Bernard Poolman>:地上如此,天上也如此。


[20:50] <BernardPoolman1> all the answers is on earth
<Bernard Poolman>:所有的答案都在地球上。


[20:51] <Sunette> We'll be walking a Series on this as well that will be available soon
<Sunette>:我们对此还将会有一个系列视频访谈一步步讲解,这些访谈不久就会出现。

 

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