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迈克尔•采里昂 视频回复2:臆构自我[见译注]

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Youtube视频:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WQNQHmhrtQ

译者:吴畏

 

我们继续迈克尔•采里昂和一些洞察和视角——建议考虑的洞察和视角,以形成和构成他当前正在践行和从事的,对人类存有们实际有效的事情——合乎这个原则:以实际真实的自我改变来渗透这个世界的实际真实改变。

 

我们在上一个访谈中结束在了臆构自我这点上,这是我们将在这个访谈中讨论的内容——臆构自我。

 

关于臆构自我,我们所发现的是(这是我们在自己的进程中实际走过并且已经走过的):我们认识到了,如果我们把我们自己与臆构自我分离开,意思是将臆构自我视作是一个分离的设计、一个分离的显现、一个分离的存有、一个分离的系统,那么我们就在将臆构自我视作是与自己分离开的某种事物这个接受之中,实际上持续并且恶化了臆构自我的/即这整个显现设计。

 

意思是,不管我们多少次动手处理臆构自我这一点,它都没有“走开”,它没有停止,它没有在我们自己之内停止存在——这种情况下,我们停止了一会儿,通过问这个问题而审视:“但是,臆构自我是从哪里来的?”

 

我们从中认识和看到的是:是我们创造了臆构自我——臆构自我是由自己创造和设计的“自己的一部分”。如此一来,如果我是创造者,那么创造物是我。换句话说,如果我创造了臆构自我,那么由我自己创造出的臆构自我:是我。由于我将我自己与这个设计、与这个我创造的显现臆构自我分离开来,因此我实际上由于这个分离点而实际在“喂养”臆构自我,实际在持续臆构自我本身——因为我是在“将自己移动到那里去”,我是在将我自己移动进臆构自我的设计或显现之中去,我并没有在从事于在这里的我/我自己。

 

因此我们所做的是,我们认识到了:如果臆构自我目前存在,那么我作为臆构自我而存在。并不是由我来改变作为一个分离的显现设计或系统的臆构自我;而是由我来实际改变作为臆构自我的我自己。

 

这是我们发现的有许多许多点被错过的地方:目前我们作为臆构自我而存在(臆构自我只是整个心智显现的一个设计)。我们发现的是:我们设计了臆构自我作为对自己的一个分离的显现的投射。臆构自我存在于心智头脑部位,我们在其中创造了对我们自己的信念、解释、感知、观念这整个心智显现的现实,臆构自我包含所有这些。我们存在于这个我们自己的定义即臆构自我中,但它并不是在这里实际的我们自己,它只是一个投射,是我们与之分离开了的我们自己的一部分。


我们所做的是我们走过了这个认识过程:“好吧,目前我正在接受和允许我自己作为臆构自我而存在”。

 

什么是臆构自我?臆构自我是所有的信念、观念、解释、投射、定义、感情、情绪——自己所体验自己所是的所有一切,但它并不是真实的,不是实际的,不是事实的,不是……一个可以躬行实践的等同合一的“我是谁”的表达——它实际只是投射的解释的混合物。

 

所以,我们担当起臆构自我的整个设计并作为它改变了我们自己,意思是:我们停止了对自己的所有信念、所有观念、所有评判、所有解释,这是通过一个自我宽恕、自我诚实和实际改正行动的过程,并实际作为臆构自我而改变了我们自己。在这改变之中,实际的自己站立起来了,可以说,步入前来,而你认识到:“可是,我的天啊,我不是这个臆构自我,这个臆构自我设计是我自己创造的一个幻象。”

  

我们发现的关于臆构自我的主要一点是:它的最初设计来自存有们对其他存有怎样看你进行的解释 ——由此你创造出对你自己的观念、感知、信念。换句话说,例如,一个存有经过你并看了你一眼,由此你将那个眼光以特定方式进行解释,例如:“噢,我的天啊,那个人看我很恶心!”然后,感知、自我感知、自我评判和自我解释出现了:“我什么地方出了毛病?我为什么收到一个恶心的眼光?我做错了什么事吗?”然后,所有那些观念、感知、信念、观念涌上来,由此整个自我信念、自我定义、自我观念就创造出来了——通过解释其他存有的行动、话语、行为或举止。

 

  

关于臆构自我,我建议考虑的一点是:臆构自我不是一个分离的设计、一个分离的显现、一个分离的存有或实体在我们之内,它就是我们。我们实际上相信我们自己是臆构自我已经到了这样一种程度以至我们实际上是在作为它而活,我们已经实际成为了它。为使臆构自我停止存在,实际停止其存在,是要停止我们自己而不再接受和允许我们自己继续存在于臆构自我中。

  

我们必须作为它的全部以停止我们自己,而这是一个过程。

 

我听过迈克尔关于臆构自我的看法——认为它是存在于存有之中的某种“生物”。我建议他考虑这点:臆构自我实际上是一个接受和允许了的作为自己而活的自我定义,因此自己必须作为臆构自我完全彻底地改变,因为由此实际的自己步入前来而臆构自我消失。

 

好的,谢谢。

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译注:“臆构自我”这个词是我对英文单词ego的一个建议译法。英文中表示自己或自我的词主要有selfego这两个。Self是普通用语的“自己”,单独使用时通常译为自己,在与其它词语结合起来形成复合词时通常译为自我(但也有译为自己的),例如自我诚实(Self-Honesty),自我宽恕(Self-Forgiveness),自我改正声明(Self-Corrective-Statement)、自我责任(Self-Responsibility)等。

 

Ego这个词是专有名词,有非常特定的含义。在心理学资料中ego通常被译作自我,若想了解心智心理学上对ego是如何界定的,可以去查阅相关资料,这里只讨论在Desteni材料中ego的含义。

 

Desteni材料中出现的与Ego这个词的界定相关的有以下一些说法:

 

(1)Ego exists as who you believe yourself to be as who you have defined yourself to be through the Mind.

 

译文:ego是你通过心智相信你自己所是的人,是你通过心智定义你自己所是的人。

 

(2) Ego: E = the manifestation/merging of I/me into/as Energy and go = the infinite movement/cycling of me as energy, constantly/continuously generating friction through separation from experience as energy as me to manifest the finite existence as me as Energy alone.   (原文链接:http://heavensjourneytolife.blogspot.com/2012/04/god-created-ego-day-15.html)

 

Ego: E 是指“我显现和融合为的能量”,go是指“我作为能量的无限运动和循环,持续不断地通过分离产生摩擦,从作为能量作为体验的我,显现出我仅仅作为能量的有限存在。”

 

(3)Ego/Energy/Mind/Consciousness/Illusion/Separation/Judge  (原文链接:http://heavensjourneytolife.blogspot.com/2012/04/god-created-ego-day-15.html)

 

以上这些词语是与ego的含义密切相关的词语:能量、心智、意识、幻象、分离、评判者/审判者

 

考虑到ego这个词的特定含义,以及为了避免与self译法中出现的“自我”混淆,我采用“臆构自我”这个译法,原因如下:1. “臆构自我”这个词从字面可以直接理解为:臆想构造的自我,意识虚构的自我。这个含义与(1)中的定义相符。2. “臆构自我”中的“臆构”其中文发音(yì gòu)ego的英文发音(yī gōu)差别仅在声调上,因此从发音上也可直接与ego对应。3.“臆构自我”提醒这个词是一个有特定含义的专有名词,而非普通含义的自己、自我。

 

因此至少在Desteni材料范围内,无论是从音译还是从意译方面来看,“臆构自我”都是ego这个词的一个较为合适的译法。当然,这个译法以前没有人用过,其通用性是个问题,目前只是一个尝试和建议,在我的译文中暂且采用试行。

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视频原文文本:

 

Michael Tsarion Video Response 2: Ego

13 April 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WQNQHmhrtQ

 

So, we’re continuing with Michael Tsarion and insights and perspectives, suggested insights and perspectives to consider, to form and make what it is that he’s currently living and working on, practically effective for human beings, within the principle of actual real self-change that penetrates the actual real change of this world.

 

So – we ended off with the Ego in the previous interview and this is the point that we’ll be discussing within this interview; is Ego.

 

What we found with regards to Ego, and this is within our own processes that we practically walk and have walked – we’ve realised that if we separate ourselves from the Ego, meaning seeing the Ego as a separate-design, a separate-manifestation, a separate-being, a separate-system = we had, within that acceptance of seeing the Ego as something separate from self - actually perpetuated and worsened the entire manifested-design of and as the Ego.

 

Meaning, no matter how much we approached the point of Ego – it didn’t ‘go away’, it didn’t stop, it didn’t cease to exist within ourselves – and within that, we for a moment stopped and we looked at, within asking the question: “But, where does the Ego come from?”

 

What we’ve realised and saw within that, is that we’ve created the Ego – the Ego is a ‘part of self’ that self has created and designed, so within that; if I am the Creator – the Creation is Me. In others words – if I created the Ego, the Ego that I’ve created of myself: Is Me – and that within me separating myself from that design, from that manifestation of the Ego that I created = I’m actually within that point of separation, actually ‘feeding’ the Ego, actually perpetuating the Ego itself, because I’m ‘moving myself to there’, I’m moving myself into the Design or manifestation of the Ego – I’m not working on me, myself that is Here.

 

And so what we did is, we realised that, currently if the Ego exists – I exist as the Ego and, it is not about me changing the Ego as a separate-manifested-design or –system; it is me actually changing myself as the Ego.

 

And that’s what we found where many, many of the points are being missed: Is that, currently that what we exist as is Ego, Ego being but one design of the entire Mind-manifestation. We’ve found that, we’ve designed the Ego as a separate-manifested projection of self and, that Ego exist within the mind-head region wherein we’ve created this entire mind-manifested-reality of believes, interpretations, perceptions, ideas of ourselves = so, the Ego contains all of that, and we exist within this definition of ourselves as Ego, which is not the actuality of who we are Here – it is simply a projection, a part of ourselves in which we separated ourselves and…

 

So, what we did – is we walked the process of realising: “Alright, currently I’m accepting and allowing myself to exist as Ego”.

 

What is Ego: Ego is all the beliefs, ideas, interpretations, projections, definitions, feelings, emotions = everything of self, that self experiences self to be, but is not Real; it’s not actual, it’s not factual, it’s not… a livable, equal and one expression of ‘Who I am’ – it’s simply a concoction of literal projected interpretations.

 

So, we took the whole Design of Ego and we changed ourselves as it, meaning – we stopped all beliefs, all ideas, all judgments, all interpretations of self through a process of self-forgiveness and self-honesty and practical corrective action = and actually changed ourselves as the Ego. And within that change – the Actual Self stands-up, so to speak, steps forth and you realise: “But, Oh my God – I’m not this Ego. This Ego-Design was an Illusion I created of myself.”

 

And, the main-point we found of Ego is that; its original-design comes from beings interpreting other beings’ views of yourself – and within that you create ideas, perception, beliefs of yourself. In other words, let’s say for example – a being would walk by and look at you, and within that – you’d interpret the look a certain way, for example: “Oh my God, that being looked at me in disgust!” And then – a point of perception, self-perception, self-judgment and self-interpretation comes up of: “What, what’s wrong with me? Why did I get a disgusting look? Have I done something wrong?” And then – all those ideas, perceptions, beliefs, ideas come up and, from that – the whole belief of self, definition of self, idea of self is created, through interpreting other beings’ actions, words, behaviours or mannerisms.

 

The point I would suggest to consider with regards to Ego, is that Ego is not a separate-design, a separate-manifestation, a separate-being or entity within us = is it us. We’ve actually believed ourselves to be Ego to such an extent, that we’re actually living it, we’ve become it – in actuality, and to stop the Ego from existing, to actually cease its existence – is to cease ourselves from accepting and allowing ourselves to continue existing within Ego.

 

We have to stop ourselves as it, in its entirety – and that is a process.

 

So, I’ve heard with regards to Michael’s perspective on Ego - that it’s a “creature” of sorts existing within beings: I would suggest to him to consider the point that Ego is actually a...an accepted and allowed self-definition that is lived as self and thus, Self must change as Ego completely and entirely, because in that – the Actual Self step forth and Ego disappear.

 

Alright, thank you.

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