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美国脱口秀明星——奥普拉·温弗里(2007-06-16 09:10:47)
 

美国脱口秀明星——奥普拉·温弗里

 

“你是谁,你来自哪里,这些都不重要。获取成功的能力源自你自己,从来都是如此。”——奥普拉·温弗里
 
记者:我们听说过小提琴天才,但你绝对是演讲天才。这很不常见。
 
奥普拉·温弗里:很久以来我就是个演讲家。真的,我的一生基本上就是个演讲家。我从3岁半起就开始在教堂里演讲。别人是以唱歌出名,而我是以说话出名。
 
记者:很明显,你的父亲在你成长的过程中给了你很大的影响,对吗?
 
奥普拉:是的,他对我的生活产生了很大的影响。他有点担心我是否能做得完美无缺,不会接受任何他认为我做得还不够完美的事情。
 
当我和我母亲生活在一起时,我很叛逆。我做一切我可能得逞的坏事,常常搞各种各样的恶作剧,总是跟母亲撒谎。当我搬到父亲那儿后,我再也没有撒谎,因为我知道这行不通。我知道父亲会说:“好了,就此停止吧。”
 
记者:告诉我们,你是怎样碰巧去协助别人主持脱口秀节目的,感觉如何?
 
奥普拉:我之所以去协助别人主持脱口秀节目是因为我在新闻节目上做砸了,就要被解雇。我崩溃了,因为在此之前,我一直有点儿漫无目的,没有真正过多考虑过自己的生活或生活道路。我当时只有22岁,被整个事情弄得狼狈不堪,因为我从来没有失败过。正是这次失败使我转向了脱口秀,因为他们没有别的地方安置我。我告诉你,我永远不会忘记我做访谈的那一时刻——我的第一次访谈——节目结束后,我想:“这就是我早就应该干的。”因为它对于我来说就像呼吸,像呼吸一样。
 
记者:你让受访者敞开心扉、坦诚相告的能力让人惊讶。你认为这归功于什么?
 
奥普拉:我想,我让人们敞开心扉、坦诚相告的能力归功于人类精神上的共性。我们都想要同样的东西,我了解这一点。我清楚地知道我和别人没有任何不同,我和我要采访的下一个对象是完全一样的。我认为,一旦你开始认为自己比别人胜一筹时,你就忘记了自己是谁。因为事实的真相是:我们都是一样的。我了解这一点,真的了解。我想人们也意识到了这点。
 
所以,我认为人们在我的节目上如此坦诚是因为我也坦诚。这样做让我很舒服。他们知道我不会嘲笑他们。我希望每个参加我的访谈的人在离开时都能带着一份尊严,保持他们自己的尊严,即使我和他们意见并不一致。
 
记者:看起来你能很好地应对批评?
 
奥普拉:如果批评是基于事实的话。我只想说我是一个实事求是的人。我相信“事实会让你自由” 。我绝对相信这一点。所以,如果你告诉我的是事实,我会接受并采取措施加以改进。
 
记者:有人说你在事业上是一举成功,你是这样认为的吗?
 
奥普拉: 你知道,我不知道是否真有人一举成功,我认为成功是一个过程。我相信我在3岁半时,在科修斯科山浸礼会教堂所做的第一次复活节演讲就是我成功的开始。我发表的其他每一次演讲,我读的每一本书,我在公众场合所做的每一次讲话,都是构建我成功的砖块。
 
所以,在我第一次坐在电视镜头前试播时,别人对我说“读这个”,我能读得非常轻松,非常放松,这是因为我曾经做过这个活。如果我从来没有读过书,从来没有在公开场合演讲过,我肯定会非常紧张。
 
记者:你认为,如果要在生活中实现自己的抱负,必须具备什么最重要的特性?
 

奥普拉:在生活中实事求是的能力。你必须对自己诚实。诚实源自你的直觉,当你做某事时,它会告诉你是否做得对。如果你有了成就感、满足感和认为对世界有价值,你就知道你正在做正确的事情。你无须问任何人。当你正在做正确的事时,你不必问:“你认为这样做行吗?”这在任何层面都是适用的。

 
记者:运气如何影响了你的事业?
 

奥普拉:我觉得运气就是有准备地迎接机遇。我之所以如此强烈地感受到这点是有理由的,对我来说这不仅仅是一个说法。我在1973年被电视台录用,正好是在1971年和1972年的暴乱之后,其他的黑人和妇女也是在这时被雇佣。当时,人们指责我只是一个摆设。这并没有影响到我,因为我意识到我会一直在电视台呆下去。我一到电视台就意识到,谁也无法把我从这儿赶出去。这并不是阶段性的。我是自己创造了自己的运气。

 

America’s Talk Show Star – Oprah Winfrey

 

 “It doesn’t matter who you are, where you come from. The ability to triumph begins with you. Always.”  -- Oprah Winfrey

 

Correspondent: You hear about child prodigies1 on the violin, but you definitely were a prodigy as a speaker. That’s very unusual.

 

Oprah Winfrey: I was an orator for a long time. I’ve been an orator really, basically, all of my life. Since I was three and a half, I’ve been coming up in the church speaking. Other people were known for singing; I was known for talking.

 

C: Your father apparently had a strong influence on you when you were growing up, right?

 

Oprah: Yes, he was a big influence in my life. He had some concerns about me making the best of my life, and would not accept anything less than what he thought was my best. 

 

When I was living with my mother, I was very rebellious. I did everything I could get away with. I used to play all kinds of pranks2. I used to lie to my mother all the time. When I moved to my father’s house, I never told another lie because I knew it wasn’t going to be accepted. I knew, “Okay, stop right here.”

 

C: Tell us how you happened to first co-host a talk show, and how that felt.

 

Oprah: I only came to co-host a talk show because I had failed at news, and I was going to be fired. I was devastated because up until that point, I had sort of cruised. I really hadn’t thought a lot about my life, or the direction it was taking. I was twenty-two and embarrassed by the whole thing because I had never failed before. And it was that failure that led to the talk show, because they had no place else to put me. And I’m telling you, the hour I interviewed -- my very first interview -- I’ll never forget it. I came off the air, thinking, “This is what I should have been doing.” Because it was like breathing to me. Like breathing.

 

C: Your ability to get people in your audience to open up to you is astounding.  To what do you attribute that?

 

Oprah: My ability to get people to open up is only attributed, I think, to the fact that there is a common bond in the human spirit. We all want the same things. And I know that. I really do know that I am no different than anybody else. I have to recognize that I’m as worthy as the next guy. And I think the moment you start thinking that you are better than somebody else, you’ve lost sight of who you are. Because the truth of the matter is, we are all the same. And I know that. I really know that. And I think people sense that.

 

So I think the reason people open up so much on the show is because I open up. I feel comfortable doing it. And they know that I am not going to ridicule3 them. I want everybody on the show, even if I disagree with them, to leave with a sense of dignity, to maintain their own dignity.

 

C: It seems that you are able to deal with criticism fairly well?

 

Oprah: If it’s the truth. Of all things I would say I’m a truth-seeker. I believe that, “The truth shall make you free.” I absolutely believe that. So if you are telling me the truth, I accept it and will move on it.

 

C: Someone said your career was kind of a sky-rocketing success. Do you think so?

 

Oprah: Well, you know, I don’t know if anybody really skyrockets to success. I think that success is a process. And I believe that my first Easter speech, at Kosciusko Baptist Church, at the age of three and a half, was the beginning. And that every other speech, every other book I read, every other time I spoke in public, was a building block.

 

So by the time I first sat down to audition in front of a television camera, and somebody said, “Read this,” what allowed me to read it so comfortably, and be so at ease with myself at that time, was the fact that I had been doing it a while. If I’d never read a book, or never spoken in public before, I’d have been traumatized4 by it.

 

C: What characteristics do you think are most important for having a fulfilling life?

 

Oprah: The ability to seek truth in your life. You have to be honest with yourself. Honesty comes from your natural instinct telling you when you are doing something, whether or not this feels right. You feel a sense of accomplishment and fulfillment and worthiness to the world, in such a way that you know that you are doing the right thing. You don’t have to ask anybody. When you are doing the right thing, you don’t have to say, “Do you think this is okay?” It works on every level.

 

C: How has luck affected your career?

 

Oprah: I feel that luck is preparation meeting opportunity. There’s a reason I feel so strongly about that, and it’s not just a saying for me. I was hired in television in 1973, right after the riots of ’71, ’72, and other blacks and female people were hired at the same time. People accused me of being a token at the time. It didn’t really bother me because I realized that I was going to stay there. Once I got there, I realized, nobody is getting me out of here. This is not just a phase for me. I sort of began to create my own luck.

 
 

注释:

1. prodigy [5prCdidVi] n.奇才,天才(尤指神童)

2. prank [prANk] n.恶作剧,(使人难堪的)玩笑

3. ridicule [5ridikju:l] vt.嘲笑,嘲弄

4. traumatize [5trC:mEtaiz] vt.使受心理创伤,使受精神创伤

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